Re: Odds to Chase?
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Why assume it won't get reraised by the flop original flop bettor?
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Why assume it will?
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It could easily get capped by the original raiser then how do your odds look?
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Still good, the pot is big. Also, for it to get capped, someone would need to raise, then someone would 3-bet, THEN it could be capped. Not a big concern at this point.
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Even if this doesn't happen one of your outs puts a three flush on the board so you can't call this a true 4-outer.
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This is true. Odds are still good anyway.
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Your 12:1 odds are only good if your draw is a solid four-outer to the nuts on the turn.
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I'm not really sure what you mean by this, but do you only play draws to the nuts? Anyway, he only needs around 3.2 outs to make this immediate call correct.
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With this hand you kind of need to get the 4 on the turn because you probably wont have the odds to see the river if you miss.
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Heh, well I'm sure he was trying to get the 4 to fall on the turn, but just wasn't concentrating hard enough. He still has the odds to call.
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Even if you catch the non-4 4 to make the str8 on the turn there are tons of redraws that kill you on the river.
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True.
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This is a marginal call drawing to a hand that is not the nuts
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True.
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You have 9 players on the flop most of whom have odds to draw to a flush
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They all have odds to draw to a flush but what does that have to do with anything?
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Saying this fold is wrong is wrong.
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Flop call = good.
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