[pooh74]

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Hi Folks,
Quoting the FAQ:

What is a good ROI for SnGs

You need to play at least 200-300 at a given level to get a good read.

25% ok
25% - 35% good
35% - 40% very good
40% - 45% excellent
45% - 50% probably unsustainable
50%+ one of: unsustainable, your lying, you have hacked the poker room

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Ok. Right now, I'd love to have 25%.

I'm playing 105 +9 Turbo SnGs on stars. I've played 160 tournaments, and 45% in-the-money finishes with a breakdown of approx:

9.5% first place
14% second
22% third

Over this time, I'm beating the game for a pretty good sum (to me [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]) and getting about 12% return. While I know I can improve, (especially by winning more at the expense of 3rd place finishes) is it really possible to expect to get 25% or more ROI? The rake alone is 8.5%, meaning I'm beating the game for total of 20.5%

Pls clarify the ROI numbers. I'd be interested in seeing other samples of data (hopefully larger than 160) and if they differ from the FAQ.

thanks for the help!

ps. I'd also like to discuss a bit more intangible benefits of playing a lot of SnG, and maybe quantify their value. For instance, I rack up FPPs like mad, and use them to buy into the 500FPP sattelite to the weekly $215. When I win, I can unregister and use those T$ for SnGs, so don't they translate into real $$?

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On first thought, I dont think FPPs should be included only because it is not a constant variable that we all use. Furthermore, converting FPPS into tournament dollars consists of placing in top 9 in a satelite to the Sunday...so for pure consistency's sake, Id say this $ should not be included.

I play stars 15+1 and 25+2 turbos and would probably kill to have your ROI at the 105s. Mine is around 35-40% at 15 level but down there you can always count on half the table being gone by the 100 blinds...well not always, but it is a common occurrence. Our distributions are different in that I have many 4ths and 1sts and not as many 2nds and 3rds. I dont play for first as people advocate but at the same time I am not afraid to get in with the best of it on the bubble but things will happen (i.e. sucked out or it didnt turn out to be the best).

anyway, nice post

pooh