Re: bet for value here? also did I have pot odds to call?
It is not bad to discount your outs, but you shouldn't be eliminating the [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] outs all together from the equation. I think even couting them as only 1/2 outs is a bit too conservative, but I wouldn't argue with you about it too much.
So if you were going to count them as 1/2 outs you have 10 outs in this hand.
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