[hockey1]

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it'd make sense for him to value raise KK and QQ here and i think that's what his raise here looks like.

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Please explain why you think this is a value raise. Do you think that anyone with less than an A does anything but fold to a raise often enough to make the raise for value? I.e., even with KK it seems like a call is the right play for UTG+1 here.