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Old 10-16-2004, 09:23 PM
elysium elysium is offline
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Default Re: Flush draw paradox

hi stox

yeah whew....i just reread my post. this starbucks coffee is really has a kick to it.

what was the question? oh, why the increase on the implied odds. well,....i'm am in the middle of a good bowl of oatmeal right now....no, no not starbucks. for crying out loud stox. how are you going to make it back out to your car carrying both coffee and oatmeal? it be a big mess.

quaker near a sink. people would be tracking in like snow if it was starbucks.

gray goo.

implied odds.

the reason your implied odds increase even though your pot odds may not necessarily increase with the raise or reraise, is because you are taking action by raising suggesting that the implied odds are not a factor when in fact they may be a considerable factor that you must handle delicately at the time that the implied odds actually weigh in. true, the pot odds may not improve with the raise. however, they might. no one on the face of the earth can say for certain whether the pot odds improve or worsen upon raising. we don't know. what is known is that by raising the implied odds go up because by playing it as though you do not care about the pot odds, your opponent will not consider the fact that one of the reasons you may be playing it like you are those times you raise or reraise is for the improvement of your implied odds. this is not to say that you should ever raise to get more money into the pot in order to improve your odds. that distinction must be made very clear here. that is never a reason for raising. but when you are playing for a strategic advantage in the hand it can become costly. therefore you must calculate every measure by which you can cut that cost, and one way of doing it is to factor in the improvement of your implied odds. and of course i agree that the overall reduction of the cost of playing to win is minimal when factoring in only the improvement of the implied odds. it's minimal stox. but like my grandmother used to say when i would ask her for first a quarter and then a dime, she'd say, 'a dime here and a dime there, pretty soon you have a dollar.'. she didn't realize it but that just inspired me to continue asking for dimes because, i'd reason, pretty soon i'd have a dollar. she always gave us 2 dollars on christmas though.

in a 20-40, i suppose this advice is worth perhaps a dime. it adds up. come next succos you'll be rolling in it.
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