[VarlosZ]

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Guys, thanks so much for assuming I don't understand EV. Made my day.

"Aside: Did I really save $200? That is, does PartyPoker set the order of the deck at the start of the hand and leave it as such, or does it constantly shuffle the remaining cards? Thanks."

What do you propose we do when you post something like the above?

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I'd propose you treat it as a question about the method online poker sites use to determine which cards are dealt. I have no idea how asking that question implies a lack of appreciation for the importance of EV, but since you weren't the only one to infer as much, I'm probably missing something.

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Saving $200 because of dumb luck, then being upset about it because you lost some EV preflop, through no fault of your own, is clearly missing the forest for the trees. The time to be upset was before I knew an unfavorable board was imminent . . . and I was.

I'm not sure I understand. I'd still be ticked off afterwards. In the long run, you're losing $60 everytime a situation like this occurs. It seems to me that your thinking is result-oriented.

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Thinking about the effect in the long run of being disconnected with KK preflop, I'm upset. Thinking about the effect of being disconnected with KK preflop in this particular case, I'm glad. Neither line of thinking is inherently better than the other, nor are they mutually exclusive.

Besides, there is a sense in which your thinking is results-oriented. Since I have an advantage at a typical Party $100NL table, I should be upset about being disconnected, period. The cards in my hand during some particular instance of disconnection are no more or less important than the cards that wound up on the board and in the other hands.

The disconnection didn't cost me $60 in EV, it cost me whatever my average profit per hand is. When determining the amount of EV the disconnection cost me, to consider my hole cards, but not the other hands or the upcoming board, is arbitrary.


-- Jeremy