[JTrout]

And JTrout, you think league MVP means anything?

yes. something.

Please, Manning would trade any MVP award for a ring in a nanosecond.

I'm sure you are correct on this point.

The MVP of the league is Bill Belichek.

you're off track here. the "P" stands for player! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Players and teams are measured by one thing and one thing only - championships. Period

He'll then be relegated to Marino status and not Montana status. Great QB, never won the big one.

These statements are contradictory. How can you become "great" if you are measured by one thing, and one thing only, and you didn't achieve it? (The answer: you are measured by more than one thing.)