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Are you saying that the Ravens wouldn't have won their Super Bowl if they had Manning? I sincerely doubt that that's true.

Your argument seems to be that since Peyton hasn't been on a championship team he's overrated. To be honest I'm not a great Peyton Manning fan but I can think of many teams that has had great defenses that if the Colts had as good of a defense as some of those teams, Manning would probably have been on a championship team already. The Colts defense sucks and has sucked. Even the legendary Joe Montanna played on teams that had excellent defenses. Therefore I don't necessarily think that not playing on championship teams doesn't make you the best player.

If the Colts had Ray Lewis would they win a championship? I doubt it. An old cliche but it's a team game and one great, great player can't carry 10 relatively mediocre to poor performers.