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Forum: Politics 11-02-2005, 04:51 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 336
Posted By Arnfinn Madsen
Re: MMMMMMM and others US foreign policy defenders - ethics?

This discussion is becoming a mess and isn't going anywhere. In 2009 this matter will probably be solved anyway.
Forum: Politics 11-02-2005, 12:27 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 336
Posted By Arnfinn Madsen
Re: MMMMMMM and others US foreign policy defenders - ethics?

This goes to the whole nature of Guantanamo. Prisoners handed over by regimes known for dubious arrests of political opponents makes the likelyhood that the prisoner is victim to political...
Forum: Politics 11-02-2005, 12:20 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 336
Posted By Arnfinn Madsen
Re: MMMMMMM and others US foreign policy defenders - ethics?

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Your first two links are from 2002 and show that foreign governments turned over suspected terrorists to the US. Your third link is from Jan. 31, 2005. We've alredy established in this...
Forum: Politics 11-02-2005, 08:38 AM
Replies: 64
Views: 336
Posted By Arnfinn Madsen
Re: MMMMMMM and others US foreign policy defenders - ethics?

Amnesty and other independent websites have several reports on prisoners arrested elsewhere (just click on Americas/US on their website) but since you maybe not trust them I have selected mainstream...
Forum: Politics 10-29-2005, 11:42 AM
Replies: 64
Views: 336
Posted By Arnfinn Madsen
Re: MMMMMMM and others US foreign policy defenders - ethics?

Yes, I have info that they did not fight against American soldiers. Do not have the time to look it up and post it systematically just now, but I will get back to you with it in a few days.

I...
Forum: Politics 10-29-2005, 07:19 AM
Replies: 64
Views: 336
Posted By Arnfinn Madsen
Re: MMMMMMM and others US foreign policy defenders - ethics?

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38 out of 578 is not a lot.These conficting statements made you look like a hypocrite and an anti-American nutjob. This is why I said I couldn't take you seriously.

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Forum: Politics 10-28-2005, 11:57 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 336
Posted By Arnfinn Madsen
Re: MMMMMMM and others US foreign policy defenders - ethics?

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I know they asked the Norwegian government after this, but I don't know the status right now.

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Searched for it, link claims that 29 has been sent home. 9 staying due to...
Forum: Politics 10-28-2005, 11:54 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 336
Posted By Arnfinn Madsen
Re: MMMMMMM and others US foreign policy defenders - ethics?

I know they asked the Norwegian government after this, but I don't know the status right now.
Forum: Politics 10-28-2005, 11:25 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 336
Posted By Arnfinn Madsen
Re: MMMMMMM and others US foreign policy defenders - ethics?

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Your link is seven months old. The link says it may take up to two months to return the people to their countries. It is fair to assume from your link they have now been released. Your...
Forum: Politics 10-28-2005, 11:12 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 336
Posted By Arnfinn Madsen
Re: MMMMMMM and others US foreign policy defenders - ethics?

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In a previous post I stated what I thought to be true and asked if anyone could provide a link showing otherwise. You did provide a link showing I was incorrect. The link you provided...
Forum: Politics 10-28-2005, 02:32 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 336
Posted By Arnfinn Madsen
Re: MMMMMMM and others US foreign policy defenders - ethics?

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From your own seven month old link

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Q When they get released, are they free, or are they released to the government for further prosecution or whatever?



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Forum: Politics 10-28-2005, 09:38 AM
Replies: 64
Views: 336
Posted By Arnfinn Madsen
Re: MMMMMMM and others US foreign policy defenders - ethics?

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As far as I know, none of the detainees at Gitmo are innocent. They may be of little intelligence value because they are low-level fighters, but they took up arms against American...
Forum: Politics 10-27-2005, 12:10 AM
Replies: 64
Views: 336
Posted By Arnfinn Madsen
Re: MMMMMMM and others US foreign policy defenders - ethics?

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Forum: Politics 10-27-2005, 12:08 AM
Replies: 64
Views: 336
Posted By Arnfinn Madsen
Re: MMMMMMM and others US foreign policy defenders - ethics?

-Release those who are proven innocent. There have been prisoners there which is proven innocent but which have not been released since the US does not know where to send them. They did not dare to...
Forum: Politics 10-26-2005, 11:31 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 336
Posted By Arnfinn Madsen
Re: MMMMMMM and others US foreign policy defenders - ethics?

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Yes, learn to live with it! No limits! Full power to the rulers! Accept Hitler's Holocaust since he perceived Jews as a threat to society! Accept...
Forum: Politics 10-26-2005, 11:22 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 336
Posted By Arnfinn Madsen
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Yes, learn to live with it! No limits! Full power to the rulers! Accept Hitler's Holocaust since he perceived Jews as a threat to society! Accept Stalin't gulag since it was...
Forum: Politics 10-26-2005, 11:21 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 336
Posted By Arnfinn Madsen
Re: MMMMMMM and others US foreign policy defenders - ethics?

Ok, fair enough MMMMMMM, I see you are conscious about it, it is the deniers and the ignorants that makes me scared.
Forum: Politics 10-26-2005, 11:18 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 336
Posted By Arnfinn Madsen
Re: MMMMMMM and others US foreign policy defenders - ethics?

Yes, learn to live with it! No limits! Full power to the rulers! Accept Hitler's Holocaust since he perceived Jews as a threat to society! Accept Stalin't gulag since it was necessary to preserve...
Forum: Politics 10-26-2005, 10:55 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 336
Posted By Arnfinn Madsen
Re: MMMMMMM and others US foreign policy defenders - ethics?

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Is it not sufficient, in your mind, that I state that I agree that some US misdeeds have been indeed "bad", whereas some other US actions have been merely "less than ideal" given the...
Forum: Politics 10-26-2005, 09:35 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 336
Posted By Arnfinn Madsen
Re: MMMMMMM and others US foreign policy defenders - ethics?

The list is long so I will start with only a few things (source: Amnesty International):

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By the end of the year, more than 500 detainees of around 35 nationalities continued to be...
Forum: Politics 10-26-2005, 09:05 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 336
Posted By Arnfinn Madsen
MMMMMMM and others US foreign policy defenders - ethics?

Quote from MMMMMM:

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I DO think many things our government has done are wrong. However there is no way to judge such things in a vacuum; hence relative morality must be applied. We live...
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