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Forum: Politics 12-13-2005, 01:03 AM
Replies: 80
Views: 369
Posted By hetron
Re: Scandinavia

I'm not worried about it at all. What goes on in scandinavia doesn't affect me at all. I'm just giving you some reasons why voluntary taxation might not work well.

As for the small minority, do...
Forum: Politics 12-13-2005, 12:50 AM
Replies: 80
Views: 369
Posted By hetron
Re: Scandinavia

If stealing from the fat guy means someone doesn't have to die in the street homeless, or some kid who is dying of cancer but parents can't afford to pay for chemo gets to live, I think the people of...
Forum: Politics 12-13-2005, 12:31 AM
Replies: 80
Views: 369
Posted By hetron
Re: Scandinavia

Methinks you complain too much. You keep comparing taxation to other types of oppression. Most people just don't see it as THAT oppressive. Most people in scandinavia probably think property rights...
Forum: Politics 12-12-2005, 11:35 PM
Replies: 80
Views: 369
Posted By hetron
Re: Scandinavia

A lot of people feel it is morally justifiable; they feel that providing for the social welfare is more important than people paying too much in taxes. It's a value judgment. If people don't agree...
Forum: Politics 12-12-2005, 11:08 PM
Replies: 80
Views: 369
Posted By hetron
Re: Scandinavia

No it doesn't. A lot of people believe in taxation, even if they don't like it. I don't like paying taxes. That doesn't mean I won't pay them, or that I don't see the utility behind taxation. And a...
Forum: Politics 12-12-2005, 10:59 PM
Replies: 80
Views: 369
Posted By hetron
Re: Scandinavia

Probably because if it was voluntary people would look for excuses not to pay. Kind of like how people agree there should be a speed limit but frequently exceed it when they are in a rush and don't...
Forum: Politics 12-12-2005, 10:50 PM
Replies: 80
Views: 369
Posted By hetron
Re: Scandinavia

A horrible example. Most wealthy folks in a scandinavian country could leave and go somewhere else, unlike a person on an island.

When are you ever going to get 100% agreement on anything? The...
Forum: Politics 12-12-2005, 07:27 AM
Replies: 80
Views: 369
Posted By hetron
Re: Scandinavia

If 95% of the people in the country feel a certain way (and I admit I am just making up that figure), I feel that makes a concsensus.
Forum: Politics 12-12-2005, 07:26 AM
Replies: 80
Views: 369
Posted By hetron
Re: Scandinavia

You act as if the wealthy there are protesting the current system. If they don't protest it, is there still aproblem?
Forum: Politics 12-11-2005, 03:21 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 318
Posted By hetron
Re: Defeatest Howard Dean Says US Troops Can\'t Win

So the idea is to take up arms against anyone in iraq who takes up arms against the US? what if the 30, 40, 50% of the population wants to take up arms against us? do we still fight all of them?
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Forum: Politics 12-11-2005, 02:57 PM
Replies: 80
Views: 369
Posted By hetron
Re: Scandinavia

If the economic policy is pretty much widely supported throughout the society, is it plundering?

Do you understand the concept of "general consensus"?
Forum: Politics 12-11-2005, 01:27 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 317
Posted By hetron
Re: Freedom of speech during wartime should be curtailed.

Since when are we at war? Is every military incursion the US armed forces take part in a "war"? And if so, should we practice censorship at all these times.
Forum: Politics 12-11-2005, 01:22 PM
Replies: 80
Views: 369
Posted By hetron
Re: Scandinavia

Try asking some middle class swedes or norwegians if they would trade their lifestyle for that of a middle class person in the US. Go ahead, ask them.
Forum: Politics 12-11-2005, 01:14 PM
Replies: 37
Views: 226
Posted By hetron
Re: Easy solution to captured enemy prisoners

You are wrong. Winning isn't the only thing. Winning might be the only thing if your nation's survival is at stake. That isn't the case here. I think you have been watching too many football games.
Forum: Politics 11-24-2005, 12:27 AM
Replies: 38
Views: 230
Posted By hetron
Huh?

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Well, whiskey, as much as I dislike many aspects/actions/policies of the Bush admin, the fact is that we are at war - and propaganda plays a role.

Given Al Jazeera's role as an...
Forum: Politics 11-23-2005, 12:27 AM
Replies: 71
Views: 403
Posted By hetron
Re: Heavy investment

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Spare me the economics lesson. I understand the principles behind free market economics. The problem is not with theoretical free market economics. The problem is with how the...
Forum: Politics 11-22-2005, 02:55 PM
Replies: 71
Views: 403
Posted By hetron
Re: Heavy investment

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I would only point out that one of the economic issues that economists of all political stripes almost universally agree on is the stupidity of protectionism. Its...
Forum: Politics 11-22-2005, 01:37 PM
Replies: 71
Views: 403
Posted By hetron
Re: Heavy investment

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I would only point out that one of the economic issues that economists of all political stripes almost universally agree on is the stupidity of protectionism. Its very short sighted...
Forum: Politics 11-22-2005, 12:52 PM
Replies: 71
Views: 403
Posted By hetron
Point Taken

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Since when is firing people a good thing for GM????????????????

IMO they'd much prefer to be making a profit, growing sales, and hiring new employees.

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Forum: Politics 11-22-2005, 12:50 PM
Replies: 71
Views: 403
Posted By hetron
Re: Heavy investment

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It won't. The users on this board have put their heart into the philosophy that liberal completely free market economics is inevitable

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I certainly would...
Forum: Politics 11-22-2005, 11:20 AM
Replies: 71
Views: 403
Posted By hetron
Heavy investment

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discussion -- about living standards, protectionism, the benefits (and hardships) of "unferettered capitalism", etc. Maybe touch upon the modern notion of state -- and globalism. But it...
Forum: Politics 11-22-2005, 11:09 AM
Replies: 71
Views: 403
Posted By hetron
Re: WTF

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Since when is firing people a good thing for GM????????????????

IMO they'd much prefer to be making a profit, growing sales, and hiring new employees.

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It's good if you...
Forum: Politics 11-22-2005, 11:06 AM
Replies: 71
Views: 403
Posted By hetron
\"understanding of economics\"

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I'm a pretty liberal guy, but i don't really know what to do about outsourcing and downsizing. They seem inevitable.

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Just thinking out loud : How...
Forum: Politics 11-20-2005, 11:11 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 171
Posted By hetron
Re: New book about Osama and his \"philosophy\"

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Osama bin Laden wants the United States to convert to Islam, ditch its constitution, abolish banks, imprison homosexuals and sign the Kyoto climate treaty.
The first complete...
Forum: Politics 11-20-2005, 11:02 PM
Replies: 37
Views: 339
Posted By hetron
Another Rumsfeld Quote that shows he doesnt\' get it...

Rumsfeld on the Iraq conflict
The enemy hears a big debate in the United States, and they have to wonder maybe all we have to do is wait and we'll win. We can't win militarily. They know that. The...
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