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Forum: Mid- and High-Stakes Hold'em 03-22-2005, 03:36 PM
Replies: 147
Views: 475
Posted By Lestat
Re: mike

Are you saying that this thread would not have received such a response if it were simply titled, "hand against stoxtrader"? Seriously. The "stoxtrader" caught my attention more than the 100-200 in...
Forum: Mid- and High-Stakes Hold'em 03-22-2005, 03:29 PM
Replies: 147
Views: 475
Posted By Lestat
Re: 100-200 against stoxtrader

FWIW- I completely understand the reasons why you checked the turn. And I agree with this play in many situations. It's just not my style in short-handed (2,3,4-way) play. If a guy's lucky enough...
Forum: Mid- and High-Stakes Hold'em 03-22-2005, 01:54 PM
Replies: 147
Views: 475
Posted By Lestat
Re: 100-200 against stoxtrader

I also really agree with what you said and very often think in these exact terms.

But short handed, the properties of what goes into the proper amount of action tend to become warped and...
Forum: Mid- and High-Stakes Hold'em 03-22-2005, 01:42 PM
Replies: 147
Views: 475
Posted By Lestat
ty and Paluka

N/M
Forum: Mid- and High-Stakes Hold'em 03-22-2005, 01:35 PM
Replies: 147
Views: 475
Posted By Lestat
Re: 100-200 against stoxtrader

<font color="red">he just realizes, that I actually consider the fat that 3 bet two solid players out of the BB. This point is really the only one i think not made in the thread yet... </font>
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Forum: Mid- and High-Stakes Hold'em 03-22-2005, 01:21 PM
Replies: 147
Views: 475
Posted By Lestat
Re: 100-200 against stoxtrader

<font color="red">anyway, and im going to assume you had a Q or 9s full or something beating AA since james is being so insistent, why didnt you play the flop or turn differently to try and get more...
Forum: Mid- and High-Stakes Hold'em 03-22-2005, 01:14 PM
Replies: 147
Views: 475
Posted By Lestat
Re: mike

<font color="red">now watch ill be wrong and the guy has quads. </font>

I think this will very likely turn out to be his hand. Although if it is, I'm not sure I like the way he played it given...
Forum: Mid- and High-Stakes Hold'em 03-22-2005, 11:41 AM
Replies: 147
Views: 475
Posted By Lestat
Re: 100-200 against stoxtrader

<font color="red"> I'll invite him to also come forward and cite any times where he has successfully bluffed me out of a pot like this vs. how many times I've called him down. </font>

I think...
Forum: Mid- and High-Stakes Hold'em 03-22-2005, 11:35 AM
Replies: 147
Views: 475
Posted By Lestat
Re: 100-200 against stoxtrader

What you'll always get from me is honesty. Unlike some posters (and you know who you are and I'm starting to know who you are as well), I am humble enough to acknowledge when I'm having a problem...
Forum: Mid- and High-Stakes Hold'em 03-22-2005, 11:05 AM
Replies: 147
Views: 475
Posted By Lestat
Re: 100-200 against stoxtrader

<font color="red">Finally, the game was 6 handed, so it's not like this was 4 handed or something. </font>

Ahh, this does change things. In live 1-2 games we often start out 3 or 4 way and stay...
Forum: Mid- and High-Stakes Hold'em 03-22-2005, 10:39 AM
Replies: 147
Views: 475
Posted By Lestat
Re: i like lestats thinking here

<font color="red"> but i think u also have to factor in a player's playing style, james seems like a more conservative player </font>

I really have to apologize that I'm not eloquent enough to...
Forum: Mid- and High-Stakes Hold'em 03-22-2005, 03:00 AM
Replies: 147
Views: 475
Posted By Lestat
Re: 100-200 against stoxtrader

Screw it. This says what I was trying to say better than I could've thunk it. And all that shania stuff. I like it.
Forum: Mid- and High-Stakes Hold'em 03-22-2005, 02:52 AM
Replies: 147
Views: 475
Posted By Lestat
Re: 100-200 against stoxtrader

<font color="red"> If he check-raises the turn and I three bet, he is definitely not calling down with worse than a queen. </font>

Then you should often 3-bet the turn just for the fun of it! ...
Forum: Mid- and High-Stakes Hold'em 03-22-2005, 02:27 AM
Replies: 147
Views: 475
Posted By Lestat
Re: 100-200 against stoxtrader

Well then how can you make a blanket statement that 3-betting the turn is much worse than 3 betting the river? Or does all that thinking cease when your range of hands includes AA?
Forum: Mid- and High-Stakes Hold'em 03-22-2005, 02:15 AM
Replies: 147
Views: 475
Posted By Lestat
Re: 100-200 against stoxtrader

If you are this worried that he has to have a queen or 99 in order to check/raise the turn, otherwise he'll fold, then you should be able to clean him out in a short-handed game.

I see what...
Forum: Mid- and High-Stakes Hold'em 03-22-2005, 02:07 AM
Replies: 147
Views: 475
Posted By Lestat
Re: 100-200 against stoxtrader

<font color="red">( and yes, I would argue it sucks worse than 3-betting the river too). </font>

It could be I've just been very lucky over the years in short handed games.

Would you...
Forum: Mid- and High-Stakes Hold'em 03-22-2005, 01:50 AM
Replies: 147
Views: 475
Posted By Lestat
Re: 100-200 against stoxtrader

Short handed is all about psychological warfare.

<font color="red">So your plan is, 4 bets go in on the turn? </font>

No, my plan is something goes in on the turn. If his plan is 2 bets...
Forum: Mid- and High-Stakes Hold'em 03-22-2005, 01:14 AM
Replies: 147
Views: 475
Posted By Lestat
Re: 100-200 against stoxtrader

Short handed your play is to bet the turn and if check/raised by a good player, 3 bet. If he 4 bets, you're probably looking at 99 or a Q, but you have to call. &lt;edit&gt; You are calling mainly to stop...
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