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Forum: One-table Tournaments 06-10-2005, 01:48 PM
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Posted By Moonsugar
Re: How much $EV will you give up?

If you look at some of PVS replies I think he shows at least that you should consider pushing sometimes even though ICM models the push as -EV. I think we are a far way from quantifying how much ICM...
Forum: One-table Tournaments 06-10-2005, 01:41 PM
Replies: 30
Views: 116
Posted By Moonsugar
YOU WERE RIGHT

Not that it matters now cause you are ignoring me, but if PVS' data for 1-5bb is accurate then you were correct on the QJ poll. The players would have to be really loose to make that push incorrect....
Forum: One-table Tournaments 06-10-2005, 01:37 PM
Replies: 30
Views: 116
Posted By Moonsugar
Re: How much $EV will you give up?

That is killer. Too bad you don't have enough hands. Very interesting stuff. Besides stack sizes I think the 2 other most important variables will be when blinds change and how many players are left...
Forum: One-table Tournaments 06-10-2005, 01:10 PM
Replies: 30
Views: 116
Posted By Moonsugar
Re: How much $EV will you give up?

Did you break down the effect by stack size ranges? It should be larger for smaller stacks. Would be curious to see ranges of 3x, 4x, 5x, 6x, 7x, 8x.
Forum: One-table Tournaments 06-10-2005, 01:05 PM
Replies: 30
Views: 116
Posted By Moonsugar
Re: How much $EV will you give up?

Ignore me. Thats fine.

Go ahead and keep trying to win @ 2+2 message boarding. I concede that anyways.

I will try to better my poker.
Forum: One-table Tournaments 06-10-2005, 12:59 PM
Replies: 30
Views: 116
Posted By Moonsugar
Re: How much $EV will you give up?

Thanks. I thought I was going crazy and no one would ever understand what I was trying to ask. This info is helpful. Will send my data to you if you want.

I guess I suck at english.
Forum: One-table Tournaments 06-10-2005, 10:32 AM
Replies: 30
Views: 116
Posted By Moonsugar
Re: How much $EV will you give up?

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A weird example that should still intuitively make sense: It's an hour into an SNG with 300/600 blinds and, through an amazing coincidence involving eight way all ins preflop, the...
Forum: One-table Tournaments 06-10-2005, 09:58 AM
Replies: 30
Views: 116
Posted By Moonsugar
Re: How much $EV will you give up?

No, I am asking how much HYPOTHETICAL $EV ACCORDING TO ICM you would give up. Are you saying that whenever ICM gives you -$EV result it is never worth pushing no matter what the blind situation is or...
Forum: One-table Tournaments 06-10-2005, 12:54 AM
Replies: 30
Views: 116
Posted By Moonsugar
Re: How much $EV will you give up?

No, it isn't. I understand that. That is why I posted this whole thread.

Edit: Oh, I see the problem. Whenever I say -$EV, I guess I should have added (according to ICM) instead of just after the...
Forum: One-table Tournaments 06-10-2005, 12:52 AM
Replies: 30
Views: 116
Posted By Moonsugar
Re: How much $EV will you give up?

Can you answer the questions I asked?

I don't think YOU can logically make a case why QJ push should be 'totally automatic'. I believe it is 'totally automatic' because you have been doing it and...
Forum: One-table Tournaments 06-09-2005, 11:06 PM
Replies: 30
Views: 116
Posted By Moonsugar
Re: How much $EV will you give up?

Where are all you "push any 2 UTG" people telling me how to calculate how much my FE is worth?
Forum: One-table Tournaments 06-09-2005, 06:48 PM
Replies: 30
Views: 116
Posted By Moonsugar
Re: How much $EV will you give up?

Fold equity. That is your equity in a pot by having enough chips to make your opponents fold their hands when you go all-in.
Forum: One-table Tournaments 06-09-2005, 06:31 PM
Replies: 30
Views: 116
Posted By Moonsugar
How much $EV will you give up?

An argument with adanthar in another thread got me thinking. Instead of hijacking that thread even more than I already have I will start this new one.

Here is the situation:

Typical Party SnG...
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