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Forum: One-table Tournaments 12-16-2005, 01:13 PM
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Posted By tigerite
Re: ($55) Awkward spot with JJ preflop

I absolutely agree for what it's worth, but hey I can only work on the ranges I was given /images/graemlins/grin.gif

I especially think the short stack would call with far more than QQ+,AK+ here,...
Forum: One-table Tournaments 12-16-2005, 12:21 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 248
Posted By tigerite
Re: ($55) Awkward spot with JJ preflop

Nah he wouldn't have to be that loose to justify a push, it was pretty close with the range you gave originally, I mean you're losing 0.06% of $EV in theory which is basically nothing.
Forum: One-table Tournaments 12-16-2005, 11:46 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 248
Posted By tigerite
Re: ($55) Awkward spot with JJ preflop

Yes, it does help to have a read on the raiser, that's absolutely true. The more he is raising with here, the more you should push, as it makes the risk of being looked up by QQ+,AK+ after you almost...
Forum: One-table Tournaments 12-16-2005, 11:11 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 248
Posted By tigerite
Re: ($55) Awkward spot with JJ preflop

I really don't know! Maybe call and pray that the flop is all unders, and that not too many others come along? It's certainly made me think, anyway.
Forum: One-table Tournaments 12-16-2005, 10:58 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 248
Posted By tigerite
Re: ($55) Awkward spot with JJ preflop

If the people to act after you call only with QQ+,AK+ to your push, you shouldn't move in here unless the UTG is pretty liberal with his raising standards.
Forum: One-table Tournaments 12-16-2005, 10:21 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 248
Posted By tigerite
Re: ($55) Awkward spot with JJ preflop

No it's actually less.

Assume calls with TT+,AJs+,AQo+

6 ways for TT,QQ,KK,AA = 24
1 way for JJ = 1
16 ways for AK,AQ = 32
2 ways for AJs = 2

Total = 59 / 1225 = 4.816%
Forum: One-table Tournaments 12-16-2005, 09:14 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 248
Posted By tigerite
Re: ($55) Awkward spot with JJ preflop

No overcall
0.85

evF Push/fold 0.1083
evL Push/lose 0
evW Push/win 0.176

Assume raising with 77+,A9s+,ATo+,KQ

6 ways for 77,88,99,TT,QQ,KK,AA = 42
Forum: One-table Tournaments 12-16-2005, 08:53 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 248
Posted By tigerite
Re: ($55) Awkward spot with JJ preflop

Well like I say if you gimme a range for a raise and call then I can do it. This goes for the ones to act after you too I guess (but only for what they call with). Now I have all the ICM for the...
Forum: One-table Tournaments 12-16-2005, 08:46 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 248
Posted By tigerite
Re: ($55) Awkward spot with JJ preflop

Well I didn't complete the "what happens after you" part for when people overcall with QQ+,AK+. Actually, I'll do that now I guess.

0.15 * [ (0.166667 * 0.638 * 0.0541) + (0.833333 * 0.638 * 0) +...
Forum: One-table Tournaments 12-16-2005, 07:55 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 248
Posted By tigerite
Re: ($55) Awkward spot with JJ preflop

So it seems my original assumption that him folding more is actually bad for you was right. I thought it was a bit strange how the higher his fold % got, the looser his range had to become but...
Forum: One-table Tournaments 12-16-2005, 07:46 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 248
Posted By tigerite
Re: ($55) Awkward spot with JJ preflop

Ok got the no overcall bit and if he really is raising 99+,AJ+ and only calls QQ+,AK+ then curtains is right

No overcall
0.85

evF Push/fold 0.1083
evL Push/lose 0
evW Push/win 0.176
...
Forum: One-table Tournaments 12-16-2005, 07:18 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 248
Posted By tigerite
Re: ($55) Awkward spot with JJ preflop

This is as far as I have got so far

0.085 * (5/6) * 0.8 = 0
0.085 * (1/6) * 0.8 = 0.0541

0.065 * (5/6) * 0.44 = 0
0.065 * (1/6) * 0.44 = 0.0541

0.085 * (1/6) * 0.2 = 0.1843
0.085 * (1/6)...
Forum: One-table Tournaments 12-16-2005, 07:07 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 248
Posted By tigerite
Re: ($55) Awkward spot with JJ preflop

So am I, got all the chip counts for ICM now.
Forum: One-table Tournaments 12-16-2005, 06:52 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 248
Posted By tigerite
Re: ($55) Awkward spot with JJ preflop

Okay then. I'll see what I can do.
Forum: One-table Tournaments 12-16-2005, 06:36 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 248
Posted By tigerite
Re: ($55) Awkward spot with JJ preflop

Working out when someone behind calls is really hard because it depends on who calls, the ICM afterwards will be different for each person? Plus what about those who call with 99,TT and even worse...
Forum: One-table Tournaments 12-16-2005, 06:25 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 248
Posted By tigerite
Re: ($55) Awkward spot with JJ preflop

Well the problem is when he folds his range has to be looser because if we assume he folds the bottom % of that the chips we gain when he folds aren't worth that much to us.

I tried it but came up...
Forum: One-table Tournaments 12-16-2005, 05:34 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 248
Posted By tigerite
Re: ($55) Awkward spot with JJ preflop

Right if he calls every time you need a 55.9% winrate which means he's raising 77+,AJo+,ATs+. Straight off the bat this seems more than reasonable anyway. In fact that's even wanting a ridiculously...
Forum: One-table Tournaments 12-16-2005, 05:29 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 248
Posted By tigerite
Re: ($55) Awkward spot with JJ preflop

I can do that. Well, I'll try to anyway, only via ICM not chipEV.
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