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Forum: Televised Poker

09-28-2004, 09:09 PM

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How much of an edge woud the best players fold early?

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Re: How much of an edge woud the best players fold early?

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TONS of big name players busted out on day 1 of the WSOP this year (well, day 1 and 2, because of the split field, but you know what I mean). And if you knowingly pass up a 60:40...

Forum: Televised Poker

09-16-2004, 11:07 PM

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How much of an edge woud the best players fold early?

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Re: How much of an edge woud the best players fold early?

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Yeah. I assume we're talking about something like blinds are 25-50, I make it 150 out of my 10000, guy moves all-in. I've never seen him before and it's very early. This is an...

Forum: Televised Poker

09-16-2004, 09:08 PM

Replies: 69

How much of an edge woud the best players fold early?

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Posted By jwvdcw

Re: How much of an edge woud the best players fold early?

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You'll take a 60% advantage, yet you'll fold KK to an early all in.

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Yeah. I assume we're talking about something like blinds are 25-50, I make it 150 out of my...

Forum: Televised Poker

09-16-2004, 05:33 PM

Replies: 69

How much of an edge woud the best players fold early?

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Re: How much of an edge woud the best players fold early?

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A cashgame player myself, this boggles my mind. I mean, I can understand avoiding plays that were +EV, but still dangerous in a tournament situation, but those are only plays with a...

Forum: Televised Poker

09-16-2004, 05:32 PM

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How much of an edge woud the best players fold early?

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Re: How much of an edge woud the best players fold early?

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HLederer and Men the Master have both said in the past they could easily fold KK preflop to big all-in raise.

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Most decent players would quickly fold KK to an...

Forum: Televised Poker

09-16-2004, 02:14 PM

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How much of an edge woud the best players fold early?

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Posted By jwvdcw

Re: How much of an edge woud the best players fold early?

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cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ad Ah 1388072 81.06 317694 18.55 6538 0.38 0.813
Ks Kc 317694 18.55 1388072 81.06 6538 0.38 0.187

At worst I...

Forum: Televised Poker

09-16-2004, 01:22 PM

Replies: 69

How much of an edge woud the best players fold early?

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Re: How much of an edge woud the best players fold early?

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Even if you knew you were a 4-1 favorite, you would still have to fold if you knew that you had a 90% chance to reach 2x your initial stack before you go bust, by not taking such gambles...

Forum: Televised Poker

09-16-2004, 12:40 PM

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How much of an edge woud the best players fold early?

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How much of an edge woud the best players fold early?

Thinking about Hellmuth's 4-1 comment, I ask this question:

First hand of the tourney. If you take some of the best players in the world like Lederer, Bruson, Ivey, Hellmuth, etc. told them what...

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