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12-23-2005, 06:24 PM
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I still don't buy that. How did what was federal property turn into state property merely because the South seceeded?
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Eminent domain. The Federal US...
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12-23-2005, 06:22 PM
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I still don't buy that. How did what was federal property turn into state property merely because the South seceeded?
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Eminent domain. The Federal US government may have...
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12-23-2005, 01:17 AM
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No. Government *REQUIRES* the use of (unprovoked) force.
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Why do governments require the use of force?
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12-23-2005, 12:18 AM
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Why wait until secession then?
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A large part of the reason the South seceded when it did was that the North was blocking expasnion of slavery into new western...
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12-23-2005, 12:06 AM
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I didn't say that people want force used on them, but that people will use force against others out of necessity. I would contend that human nature is the same as every other animal and...
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12-22-2005, 11:48 PM
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It's kind of amazing that this is the argument for how things "should" be... I'm pretty sure that this is how things are. By sticking around, ie, not emigrating, you are accepting the...
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12-22-2005, 12:54 AM
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I never consensted to any law that prohibits me from killing, stealing, and raping random women. Perhaps I am not bound by those laws since I never signed a piece of paper where I agreed...
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12-22-2005, 12:52 AM
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Sounds good to me. What if Thomas Jefferson had signed a piece of paper that said "In the year 2006, slickpoppa will pay pvn $3,000,000 per day" - do you think you should be...
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12-21-2005, 10:55 PM
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Finally, if anyone believes that the South wasn't justified in their succession, just look at what happened. The southerners were bound by a contract (the Constitution) that...
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12-21-2005, 01:01 PM
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...you probably don't give much respect to politicians trying to sway from impolitic decisions and trying to balance sometimes contradictory actions, words, and ideas because you think...
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12-21-2005, 11:12 AM
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Why wait until secession then?
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And why did the Emancipation Proclaimation only apply to the areas of the South that were still in rebellion?
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12-21-2005, 11:10 AM
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Why wait until secession then?
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12-21-2005, 10:47 AM
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I don't buy this trespassing argument regarding Fort Sumter. Like I said in the other thread, it's like declaring some spot you don't own yours and then calling the people who were on...
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12-21-2005, 10:39 AM
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Obviously it was not the only reason, but it was sufficient. And yes it was worth it to end the practice of men enslaving other men and the children of those slaves.
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Was...
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12-21-2005, 09:32 AM
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But it is also clear that there was a moral imperative to end slavery in which the North had also been complicit to some degree.
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OK, let's assume the only reason for the...
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12-21-2005, 09:30 AM
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Technically yes, but that doesn't dissuade me from my point. Not to mention that the South drew first blood.
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The north *invaded* the south. Fort Sumter is in *south...
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12-21-2005, 12:38 AM
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I would normally write a detailed answer, but after yesterday's hissy fit about governments, I am going to write a simple one.
Machineguns, bomber planes, and tanks give people the...
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12-20-2005, 10:51 PM
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I can't believe so much sympathy is given to a group of rebels that chose to wage war on our country. Disgusting.
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Uh, the north waged war against the south.
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12-20-2005, 10:51 PM
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I would also say that the North legally had the right to conquer the south after a secession, for the same reasons that the south could secede.
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Where does the right of...
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12-20-2005, 05:15 PM
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I would have said even before reading the article (I"m no where near done) that the 10th Amendment clearly suggests that secession is not illegal. I've always thought that if it weren't...
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