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Forum: One-table Tournaments

09-23-2005, 11:15 AM

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MATH: 45 extra chips to start 800-chip tourney adds >5% to ROI

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Posted By JJKillian

Re: This argument is silly, and the math sucks.

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so, is ICM right/wrong that the average player would gain 4.4 roi points if they were given 5 chips from each player to start the game? (assuming everyone at table...

Forum: One-table Tournaments

09-23-2005, 11:05 AM

Replies: 108

MATH: 45 extra chips to start 800-chip tourney adds >5% to ROI

Views: 359

Posted By JJKillian

Re: This argument is silly, and the math sucks.

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Where are you getting this gain of 4.4 roi points from? What do you mean?

I believe that starting with 800 chips your $EV via ICM is $10.00
starting with 845 chips your $EV via ICM...

Forum: One-table Tournaments

09-22-2005, 08:16 PM

Replies: 108

MATH: 45 extra chips to start 800-chip tourney adds >5% to ROI

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Posted By JJKillian

Re: MATH: 45 extra chips to start 800-chip tourney adds >5% to ROI

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Why is it so hard for some poker players to just admit that math might be very important towards acheiving good results? You are not the only one who is so resistant to this concept.
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Forum: One-table Tournaments

09-22-2005, 07:41 PM

Replies: 108

MATH: 45 extra chips to start 800-chip tourney adds >5% to ROI

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Posted By JJKillian

Re: MATH: 45 extra chips to start 800-chip tourney adds >5% to ROI

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I think math is extremely important. Basically the best player will be the one that has a great intuition/pattern recognition ability and a fantastic mathematical understanding. However...

Forum: One-table Tournaments

09-22-2005, 07:11 PM

Replies: 108

MATH: 45 extra chips to start 800-chip tourney adds >5% to ROI

Views: 359

Posted By JJKillian

Re: MATH: 45 extra chips to start 800-chip tourney adds >5% to ROI

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so if u fully believe icm, then you agree that if all players are equal skill, then this 845 stack gained 4.4% in roi over just having 800?

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although I don't agree with...

Forum: One-table Tournaments

09-22-2005, 06:01 PM

Replies: 108

MATH: 45 extra chips to start 800-chip tourney adds >5% to ROI

Views: 359

Posted By JJKillian

Re: MATH: 45 extra chips to start 800-chip tourney adds >5% to ROI

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take a 15% ROI player in 10/1 tournaments
1.15*11=12.65/tournament (-11 buyin = 1.65 profit)
ICM says they should only bring in 10/tournament if even skilled
12.65/10=26.5%...

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