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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 11-21-2005, 04:34 PM
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Posted By RJT
Re: Vatican Astronomer Debunks ID

Stat,

I might need a further explanation or maybe I have to read your post later after work. I simply assumed the Universe either always existed or began. That is my basic 50/50.

RJT
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 11-21-2005, 04:31 PM
Replies: 60
Views: 295
Posted By RJT
Re: Vatican Astronomer Debunks ID

chez,

Gee, now even you don't listen to me anymore? Et tu? I said I have no problem not assigning a number. I had thought that 50/50 god exists or not was ok. Since it is not ok with everyone...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 11-21-2005, 03:30 PM
Replies: 60
Views: 295
Posted By RJT
Re: Vatican Astronomer Debunks ID

That is what I am asking the atheists. I concede that 50/50 then is not a good number. But, then we must agree that no number is used, which is fine. So, when I do my analogy I will work within...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 11-21-2005, 02:46 PM
Replies: 60
Views: 295
Posted By RJT
Re: Vatican Astronomer Debunks ID

I leave the myriad of other possibilities to the 50% side that includes God as being one of these myriad. (That is why I said prime mover or whatever one wants to call it - Geez, Stat, I get this at...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 11-21-2005, 02:19 PM
Replies: 60
Views: 295
Posted By RJT
Re: Vatican Astronomer Debunks ID

PM,

Cool. I do think it is worth a new thread. I mean if we get a good analogy it will help keep things in perspective. Quick question - maybe this is something to be discussed in the new...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 11-21-2005, 12:59 PM
Replies: 60
Views: 295
Posted By RJT
Re: Vatican Astronomer Debunks ID

PM,

You switched around A and B – A was the believer, now B is – but that is ok. No harm done. I follow your order.

The analogy keeps changing – I don’t care what the analogy is. Let’s just...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 11-21-2005, 10:58 AM
Replies: 60
Views: 295
Posted By RJT
Re: Vatican Astronomer Debunks ID

Stat,

Didn't you read my post? That is why I said the analogy really needs to be changed to something that has movement - i.e. the Universe got started or was always in motion.

We need to...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 11-21-2005, 10:32 AM
Replies: 60
Views: 295
Posted By RJT
Re: Vatican Astronomer Debunks ID

Where you been doug? Haven’t seen you in a while.

Anyway, I will say that your analogy is definitely more like the discussion here than mine. I think though, yours has at least this one flaw...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 11-20-2005, 07:14 PM
Replies: 60
Views: 295
Posted By RJT
Re: Vatican Astronomer Debunks ID

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I'm not sure what you're saying. That non-believers should not get involved unless invited to do so?

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Stat,

I said basically the opposite (gee, David said this to me...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 11-20-2005, 06:34 PM
Replies: 60
Views: 295
Posted By RJT
Re: Vatican Astronomer Debunks ID

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Yes I know what you meant, only I don't think there's any problem with religious people's logic. More precisely, I don't think that their logic is faulty or not-faulty. The annoying thing...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 11-20-2005, 03:59 AM
Replies: 60
Views: 295
Posted By RJT
Re: Vatican Astronomer Debunks ID

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I never said atheists are smart. I said smart people are atheists.

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The Prince,

I know that. I was just trying to say that there certainly is no evidence of your main...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 11-19-2005, 06:57 PM
Replies: 60
Views: 295
Posted By RJT
Re: Vatican Astronomer Debunks ID

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Perhaps I'll never know for sure, unless the OP will say something about it.

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The only silence from any poster that I think is interesting here is David S.’s. After all...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 11-19-2005, 04:57 PM
Replies: 60
Views: 295
Posted By RJT
Re: Vatican Astronomer Debunks ID

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I don't understand this at all. If you accept this strange categorization of "very much nuts"-"nuts"-less nuts"-not nuts" etc, as you seem to do and very happily so, why not...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 11-19-2005, 04:47 PM
Replies: 60
Views: 295
Posted By RJT
Re: Vatican Astronomer Debunks ID

PM,

I obviously do not know Bluff’s actual intent of the post (how could I?) I’ll let Bluff speak for himself. I was merely expressing what seemed obvious to me.

What I am saying and did in...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 11-19-2005, 02:40 PM
Replies: 60
Views: 295
Posted By RJT
Re: Vatican Astronomer Debunks ID

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PM,

Bluff, and the rest of us Christians, do not accept the existence of the "objective" scale of nuts/less nuts. It is merely in David S.’s context of nuts/less nuts that...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 11-19-2005, 12:04 PM
Replies: 60
Views: 295
Posted By RJT
Re: Vatican Astronomer Debunks ID

PM,

Bluff, and the rest of us Christians, do not accept the existence of the "objective" scale of nuts/less nuts. It is merely in David S.’s context of nuts/less nuts that he posts this. ...
Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy 11-19-2005, 02:01 AM
Replies: 60
Views: 295
Posted By RJT
Re: Vatican Astronomer Debunks ID

I heard Rev. George Coyne speak on CSPAN a few weeks ago and posted to watch for the show to run again. I am not sure if it will be rerun anytime soon now. The guys knows his stuff (from this...
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