Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
12-19-2005, 11:58 PM
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Re: Why did Jesus have to die?
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I understand that you do not accept the authority of scripture. I do and I accept that it is accurate in all that it says about God and his creation.
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
12-19-2005, 11:38 PM
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Re: Why did Jesus have to die?
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It is more accurate to say that God WILL NOT forgive sin apart from bloodshed rather than that he CANNOT if we are simply dealing with the divine attribute of omnipotence.
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
12-19-2005, 10:21 PM
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Replies: 92
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Re: Why did Jesus have to die?
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Saying more about god in a way that says he had to do something a certain way is to deny his omnipotence.
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The implication of what you are saying is that an omnipotent...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
12-19-2005, 10:00 PM
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Replies: 92
Views: 2,041
Re: Why did Jesus have to die?
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[The bible] denies an omnipotent god.
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Maybe I was giving you too much credit. This statement is asinine. The bible does not deny an omnipotent god, it just says...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
12-19-2005, 09:41 PM
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Replies: 92
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Re: Why did Jesus have to die?
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Yes, we are seeing you say that god couldn't have achived the same outcome without jesus dying. Clearly not true if god is omniopotent.
and you believe it because it says so in the...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
12-19-2005, 08:53 PM
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Replies: 92
Views: 2,041
Re: Why did Jesus have to die?
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if god is all powerful
all knowing
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shouldnt he have a list like santi clause of whos naughty and nice.
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He does. We are all (except Jesus) on the naughty...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
12-19-2005, 08:49 PM
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Replies: 92
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Re: Why did Jesus have to die?
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An all-powerful god doesn't have to be truthful or shed that blood stuff. That you insist god does have to, is using your religon to confine...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
12-19-2005, 08:34 PM
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Replies: 92
Views: 2,041
Re: Why did Jesus have to die?
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An all-powerful god doesn't have to be truthful or shed that blood stuff. That you insist god does have to, is using your religon to confine god.
An all powerfull...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
12-19-2005, 08:29 PM
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Replies: 92
Views: 2,041
Re: Why did Jesus have to die?
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An all-powerful god doesn't have to be truthful or shed that blood stuff. That you insist god does have to, is using your religon to confine god.
An all powerfull god can make anything...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
12-19-2005, 07:50 PM
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Replies: 92
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Re: Why did Jesus have to die?
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It follows from god's omnipotence that jesus didn't have to die to achieve whatever god wanted. Its interesting how many religous folk use their religon to deny god's omnipotence.
They...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
12-19-2005, 07:16 PM
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Replies: 92
Views: 2,041
Re: Why did Jesus have to die?
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God is omnipotent. Explain why the removal of sin from a human being is outside of his range of power.
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Maybe we are getting bogged down where we shouldn't. Let's...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
12-19-2005, 05:39 PM
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Replies: 92
Views: 2,041
Re: Why did Jesus have to die?
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Do you not see the contradiction here? Sins must be punished because thats the moral and just thing to do. Oh wait just kidding we crucified some innocent guy so sins dont have to be...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
12-19-2005, 04:10 PM
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
12-19-2005, 04:00 PM
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Replies: 87
Views: 3,503
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
12-19-2005, 03:39 PM
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Replies: 92
Views: 2,041
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
12-19-2005, 02:24 PM
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Replies: 92
Views: 2,041
Re: Why did Jesus have to die?
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Similarly, God cannot simply pardon sin without payment of the penalty.
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Yes, he can.
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
12-19-2005, 02:10 PM
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Replies: 92
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Re: Why did Jesus have to die?
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but why does God ask for such sacrifices. it really is unecessary. the god of christians and catholics seems to be a very vindictive god. he demands extreme sacrifices even from his...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
12-19-2005, 10:27 AM
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Replies: 12
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
12-18-2005, 11:44 PM
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Replies: 92
Views: 2,041
Re: Why did Jesus have to die?
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Can all u devout catholics and christians please answer this question. It just seems like a senseless death to me. What kind of god would let his only son suffer so that the sins of man...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-21-2005, 10:56 AM
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-17-2005, 08:30 AM
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Re: What do Christians think about this...
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it is better to pray to a false idol in a true spirit than to worship the true God in a false spirit.
I take 'false spirit' to signify a lack of devotion or sincerity. Conversely, a...
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-17-2005, 12:55 AM
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Replies: 26
Views: 144
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-16-2005, 11:44 AM
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Replies: 29
Views: 174
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-16-2005, 11:28 AM
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Replies: 29
Views: 174
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Forum: Science, Math, and Philosophy
11-16-2005, 11:20 AM
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Replies: 29
Views: 174
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