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vipchump 05-30-2004 03:27 AM

Epic 2+2 Battle
 
Well, maybe not epic, but when two 2+2rs are going at each other, it's worth a glance. The best part is that neither of us won it (typical Party).

The other 2+2er knows who he is and is more than welcome to post here and confirm my suspicion of Aces (or Queens?).

Other than that, did I play this right? Should I have slowed down earlier? You be the judge.

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG folds, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 <font color="purple">(2+2er)</font> raises</font>, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 <font color="purple">(2+2er)</font> caps</font>, Hero calls, CO calls, Button calls, BB calls.

Flop: (20.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(5 players) </font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">2+2er bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, Button calls, BB folds, <font color="CC3333">2+2er 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Turn: (16.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players) </font>
<font color="CC3333">2+2er bets</font>, Hero calls, CO calls, <font color="CC3333">Button raises</font>, 2+2er folds, Hero folds, CO calls.

River: (22.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
CO checks, <font color="CC3333">Button bets</font>, CO calls.

Final Pot: 24.25 BB
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: 24.25 BB, between CO and Button.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by Button (24.25 BB).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
CO shows As 6h (two pair, sevens and sixes).
Button shows Ah Ts (straight, ten high).
Outcome: Button wins 24.25 BB. </font>

EDIT: This is Moozh BTW (posting from my friends computer and didn't notice the auto-login).

Piiop 05-30-2004 03:32 AM

Re: Epic 2+2 Battle
 
You played it fine. I think folding the turn wouldn't be a bad decision.

It's nice when your opponents are calling 3 cold with ATo and A6o.

Dieter01 05-30-2004 03:44 AM

Re: Epic 2+2 Battle
 
I am the other victim. Holding QQ as you guessed.

The pot is gigantic at this point, so I took a looong time deciding whether or not to fold. But a board doesn't get much scarier, with both the flush and an open ended straight out there (to which I could not improve...) so I folded.

Not many people will bet back into you on the turn like that unless you are beat.I would have to call this bet and another on the river if I stayed in, and people don't bluff even 1 in 10 times here. I am happy with my fold.



Ohh, and congrats on your win (in the long run). That rush winning 3 huge pots in a row was awesome! Was cool watching you bring them down with your aggressive play.

Moozh 05-30-2004 04:02 AM

Re: Epic 2+2 Battle
 
Heh, thanks ,that was quite a rush. I guess you could call raising queens into a big field aggressive [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]. After the first two wins it seemed like the entire table was out to get me on the third one. I was a little worried until I turned my set. Then it was all good!

Moozh 05-30-2004 04:08 AM

Re: Epic 2+2 Battle
 
Here's the rush Dieter referrs to. It's so beautiful I just have to share. These hands were consecutive. Hand 1 is straight-forward I think (I'm willing to limp in with QJo lateish). Hand 3 is also straight forward (raise at every opportunity). Hand 2 might have been able to be played better. (Not 3-bet the turn to keep more people around perhaps?)

Hand 1

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(6 players) </font>
BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, BB folds, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players) </font>
UTG checks, MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

River: (9.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players) </font>
UTG checks, MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, UTG folds, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 11.25 BB
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: 11.25 BB, between MP1 and Hero.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by Hero (11.25 BB).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
MP1 shows 4c Kd (one pair, fours).
Hero shows Jh Qs (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: Hero wins 11.25 BB. </font>

Hand 2

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, Hero calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players) </font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players) </font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, Hero calls, <font color="CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button folds, SB calls.

River: (14 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Final Pot: 16 BB
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: 16 BB, between SB and Hero.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by Hero (16 BB).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
SB shows 7h Qh (two pair, queens and eights).
Hero shows 9c 8c (three of a kind, eights).
Outcome: Hero wins 16 BB. </font>

Hand 3

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (16.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(8 players) </font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button calls, BB calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (13.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(5 players) </font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO folds, Button folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (19.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players) </font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 22.25 BB
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: 22.25 BB, between BB, UTG+1 and Hero.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by Hero (22.25 BB).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
BB shows 7d Qd (one pair, queens).
UTG+1 shows Td Ts (one pair, tens).
Hero shows Qs Qc (three of a kind, queens).
Outcome: Hero wins 22.25 BB. </font>

Hooray for bitches!

bakku 05-30-2004 08:08 AM

Re: Epic 2+2 Battle
 
Hand 2: Easy muck with no limpers in front of you, no way I'd play this here. Raise BB's initial flop bet, this is a dangerous flop that you shouldn't be slowplaying


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