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bigsooner 04-29-2004 01:26 PM

From the pages of HPFAP
 
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG raises, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button folds, SB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(6 players) </font>
Hero bets, UTG raises, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Hero 3-bets, UTG calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (12.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players) </font>
Hero bets, UTG calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

River: (16.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players) </font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: 16.25 BB

anyone bet the river???

eh923 04-29-2004 01:30 PM

Re: From the pages of HPFAP
 
I wouldn't bet the river in this case. I also wouldn't wuss out and just call w/ QQ pre-flop. Is this your typical play?

bigsooner 04-29-2004 01:33 PM

Re: From the pages of HPFAP
 
In the loose games section of HPFAP there is a detailed disctiption of this play, KK or QQ in the BB with a EP raise and several cold callers, it was not about wussing out there are manny reasons.

Bob T. 04-29-2004 01:36 PM

Re: From the pages of HPFAP
 
I would bet the river.

You have the potential to win multiple bets here, so you don't need to have a 50% chance of winning for the river bet to be correct.

Good luck,
play well,

Bob T.

bigsooner 04-29-2004 01:39 PM

Re: From the pages of HPFAP
 
ive never thought about it like that, my thinking was the more callers the better the cahnce the flush draw was out there but you statment makes sense thanks

AviD 04-29-2004 01:40 PM

Re: From the pages of HPFAP
 
What pages from HPFAP are you extracting this play from?

Yes, I would bet the river.

PokerBob 04-29-2004 01:44 PM

Re: From the pages of HPFAP
 
I think you may be giving many of your opponents too much credit. By raising you may be giving them odds to chase post flop, but are you sure they understand odds?

bigsooner 04-29-2004 01:47 PM

Re: From the pages of HPFAP
 
p 167 QQ in tbe BB

bigsooner 04-29-2004 01:50 PM

Re: From the pages of HPFAP
 
you are exactly right they dont understand these are the opp. you want to keep the pot small with that way when they chase it is a mistake

Bob T. 04-29-2004 01:50 PM

Re: From the pages of HPFAP
 
Yeah, most party 2-4 players with top pair, aren't going to laydown on the river. If you are up against two of those, and one straight draw, you will likely win two bets here.

Good luck,
play well,

Bob T.


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