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morgant 01-21-2004 11:49 AM

Analyze this hand from different perspectives
 
This hand took place, i will give you everyone's hole cards and the flop and ask for your actions for each respective player, then follow up with the turn and river. 2+2 table from a few weeks ago.

Folded to middle position who limps with 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB completes with 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], and the BB checks with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Flop comes 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Now how should everyone play and what do you think the flop action looked like. If you were one of the other two in this hand...shhhhh.


2000Flushes 01-21-2004 11:58 AM

Re: Analyze this hand from different perspectives
 
55 should bet out, Q8 call, AA raise , 55 3-bet, Q8 calls (while swearing to himself), AA Caps, all call (Q8 swears again and hopes he isnt up against A9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img])

daveymck 01-21-2004 12:10 PM

Re: Analyze this hand from different perspectives
 
Based on responnses to my hand from last nights table and my running saga with trips I think ;

55 should bet out (looking to 3 bet if possible)
Q8 should raise
AA will probably be thinking oh no but at this point has to three bet 55 will then cap (but probably be worrying about trip 9's) all call and onto the turn with a nice juicy big pot.

However this being the 2+2 table I suspect come people may have tried to be tricky.

morgant 01-21-2004 12:41 PM

Turn
 
BB aa bet, MP 55 raised, SB four flush 3-bet(?), BB capped. Now the SB's play seems a bit suspect(after the fact), and what do you read each player as having, and how do you proceed from now when the k [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] falls on the turn?

Joe Tall 01-21-2004 12:41 PM

Re: Analyze this hand from different perspectives
 
[ QUOTE ]
However this being the 2+2 table I suspect come people may have tried to be tricky.

[/ QUOTE ]

Don't take this into consideration, in fact, I feel this hand was played staight forward.

Peace,
Joe Tall

daveymck 01-21-2004 01:03 PM

Re: Turn
 
This is hard as you have given us all the info but here goes.

SB - has too choices check call or bet out and jam hoping to hit an out, knows he is behind but is going to the river. I think given the action on the flop he should bet out, if he doesnt he may be faced with a 2 bet cold call if mp trie to raise again to isolate, betting here may get him the next card cheaply.

AA - Suspects the draw is out there is hoping the other player is holding tptk but is probably worried about 99 being out there or a two pair. Has to raise though make the draw pay.

55 - Will probably assume a draw is there too suspect with action on the flop is slightly worried about 99 and now KK but is hoping its tptk, three bets.

back to SB who calls, AA calls as well hand is hidden but has been two 3 bets on each street so may feel hand is vunerable.

2000Flushes 01-21-2004 01:31 PM

Re: Analyze this hand from different perspectives
 
oops I misread the order [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

daveymck 01-21-2004 01:41 PM

Re: Analyze this hand from different perspectives
 
and stupidly I saw your order and used it for mine as well.

yenforyen 01-21-2004 02:29 PM

Re: Turn
 
I like the SB raise because now MP has to worry about a set of nines, and SB will probably win if his card hits. Rockets also must be holding onto his privates as he caps, and tighter when the K falls. Since this is 2+2 table I'm sure a similar betting pattern materialized after the turn.

Analyst 01-21-2004 03:56 PM

Re: Analyze this hand from different perspectives
 
OK, in the right order: [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

SB bets his 4-flush
BB raises AA to try and knock out any further draws
MP calls with his set, figuring any draws which will call 2 bets will call three and he may as well wait to raise the turn. If the turn is a spade, he can go into call mode or fold.
SB calls the single raise.


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