NL 200, KK w/position
 

Villain is 17/3.5/1.3 after 2400 hands, though I have never played with this person before, it was all from mining.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG+1 ($301.15)
MP1 ($193)
MP2 ($204.55)
MP3 ($173)
CO ($200)
Hero ($200)
SB ($122.74)
BB ($483)
UTG ($223.71)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $8, MP2 folds.

Flop: ($23) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $17</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $34</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $60</font>, BB calls $26.

Turn: ($143) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero

What range of hands can this person have now? Was my flop play ok? How much would you 3bet the flop for?

Re: NL 200, KK w/position
 

Range of hands:
With these stats, almost always a set, possibly JJ or QQ. MAYBE AT of clubs but I don't know that he would c/r with that or even call with it preflop (or with 89).

You didn't three bet enough to punish a flush draw, but bought yourself a free river from his set (which he most likely has).

I'd definitely check this turn, and call a value bet on the river.

EDIT: do you think the turn check means JJ or QQ or a set trying to get you to fire again. In other words, how much are you betting if he checks a blank river.

Re: NL 200, KK w/position
 

I think it's a set trying to get me to fire again. The way it went was I checked the turn, he push river and I fold. To me it was either JJ/QQ or a set and like you said he likely isn't calling AT OOP at all. Thanks for the reply I really felt weak check/folding but it seemed like the thing to do.

Re: NL 200, KK w/position
 

I dont like the flop 3-bet. Do you think villain is semibluffing OOP playing this way? I think it's unlikely.

Possible hand range could be a set, overpair, or maybe TPTK, and your flop 3-bet will make most worse hands fold, but bloat the pot for villain if he has the set.

I would just smoothcall the raise on the flop, reevalute on turn hoping for a cheapish showdown, or a 2-outer. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

As played check behind on turn, thanking villain for a cheap river.

Ojo_Rojo

Re: NL 200, KK w/position
 

check folding when you are almost surely behind like that definitely isn't weak, very well played.

Re: NL 200, KK w/position
 

I don't see why BB can't have AA here either. I'd say your flop 3-bet narrows your hand range significantly. I don't mind the 3-bet but against those PT #'s a set does seem likely.

Re: NL 200, KK w/position
 

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I don't see why BB can't have AA here either. I'd say your flop 3-bet narrows your hand range significantly. I don't mind the 3-bet but against those PT #'s a set does seem likely.

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17/3 is going to re-raise AA preflop