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12-22-2005 04:30 PM

NL 100 (6 max) - T9s
 
How would you guys play this hand?
Reads: Villain is 20/9 after 75. He seems like a beginner to the game. He has preflop down pretty good, but postflop he is pretty horrendous. His bet sizes are bad. He underbets alot. On C-bets, he was betting less than 1/2 pot alot, even when he had TPTK and there was a flush draw present. Also, him and other guy minraised each other 4 times on one street.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero ($146.80)
BB ($152.32)
UTG ($87.50)
MP ($177)
Button ($74.75)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $2</font>, Button calls $2, Hero (poster) calls $1.50, BB calls $1.

Flop: ($8) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, BB calls $8, MP folds, Button folds.

Turn: ($26) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, BB calls $15.

River: ($56) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB calls $127.32 (All-In), Hero calls $121.80 (All-In).

Final Pot: $305.12

beavens 12-22-2005 04:34 PM

Re: NL 100 (6 max) - T9s
 
well i sure dont like the turn bet (make it 3/4-pot) and the river check unless you were 100% sure he'd take a stab at the pot.

lead river with a PSB.

12-22-2005 04:35 PM

Re: NL 100 (6 max) - T9s
 
fold preflop; i only play SC on the button for a raise. as played, flop check-raise is my standard play if i think button will cbet; turn I bet closer to $18 but that's a nitpick; river I block for $35 and fold to a push.

12-22-2005 04:52 PM

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fold preflop

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Really? I would never fold this here. Ya being out of position sucks, but I get a cheap look at the flop getting 4 to 1 assuming BB calls, which he will almost all the time.

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river I block for $35 and fold to a push.

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Why do you block river for 35? Why are you folding to a push? I think a set is unlikely. He would most likely bet the flop or raise the turn. With a set, do you really think he would show 0 agression until the river?
Aren't his most likely holdings a weak K, A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]X, or Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]x

tripp0807 12-22-2005 04:52 PM

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fold preflop; i only play SC on the button for a raise.

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Pretty weak-tight, isn't it?

12-22-2005 04:53 PM

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lead river with a PSB.

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I don't like this, it's too hard to fold when he pushes with a boat.

12-22-2005 04:54 PM

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fold preflop; i only play SC on the button for a raise.

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Pretty weak-tight, isn't it?

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No. These hands play like [censored] without position.

tripp0807 12-22-2005 04:57 PM

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fold preflop; i only play SC on the button for a raise.

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Pretty weak-tight, isn't it?

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No. These hands play like [censored] without position.

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EDIT: Ignore. I'm still in donkey mode. I thought OP was on button.

12-22-2005 04:57 PM

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river I block for $35 and fold to a push.

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Why do you block river for 35? Why are you folding to a push? I think a set is unlikely. He would most likely bet the flop or raise the turn. With a set, do you really think he would show 0 agression until the river?
Aren't his most likely holdings a weak K, A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]X, or Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]x

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You think villain pushes without a boat, if Hero leads the river? Lots of donks will call down with a set if you're leading into them, and raise the river.

12-22-2005 05:01 PM

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well i sure dont like the turn bet(make it 3/4-pot)

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Good advice. I'm giving 2.73 to 1 on a 4 to 1 shot, but he's probably not folding for 5 bucks more. Also, the bigger bet may increase the chance he attempts to buy the river with a busted flush draw when checked to.
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I don't like the river check unless you were 100% sure he'd take a stab at the pot. Lead river with a PSB.

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Do I really have to be 100% sure? I only see a weak K, or the A or Q high flush draw in his range. I think I'm giving the K a chance to fold, and the flush draws are definitely folding for a pot sized bet. Are you hoping he had a hand with a 3 in it?


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