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orentha 12-16-2005 02:41 AM

what to do with AA in this situation
 
OK, Button is 42%vpip, 9%pfr over 43 hands.


Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.50 BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB ($42.95)
BB ($33.80)
Hero ($50)
MP ($15.70)
Button ($21.25)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1.75, SB calls $1.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($5.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $18.5</font>, SB folds, Hero ???

I realize that the preflop riase on my part wasn't enough... I should have made it $2.50-$3.
aside from that what would you do? or lets pretend i did raise it to $3 which I do 80% of the time with AA. Assuming i made it $3, what now...

leehrat 12-16-2005 03:01 AM

Re: what to do with AA in this situation
 
raise 4xbb preflop first-in so to $2. based on those stats and without a specific read, probably fold here

PoBoy321 12-16-2005 03:03 AM

Re: what to do with AA in this situation
 
Make it $2.50 pre-flop, easy fold on the flop.

orentha 12-16-2005 03:14 AM

Re: what to do with AA in this situation
 
is it an easy fold on the flop because he has "decent" stats or because of the board or both ? At UB, i've seen people do this with AQ, QK far too often...

leehrat 12-16-2005 03:39 AM

Re: what to do with AA in this situation
 
yeah, i don't think this is exactly an easy fold either..but i would probably fold it

PoBoy321 12-16-2005 03:55 AM

Re: what to do with AA in this situation
 
[ QUOTE ]
is it an easy fold on the flop because he has "decent" stats or because of the board or both ? At UB, i've seen people do this with AQ, QK far too often...

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Well kind of a combination of both. There just aren't a lot of hands that play this way that you're ahead of here. With the paired board, I think that all too often, players get passive with anything less than trips.

Hoopster81 12-16-2005 04:16 AM

Re: what to do with AA in this situation
 
I dont mind a check on this flop

PoBoy321 12-16-2005 04:18 AM

Re: what to do with AA in this situation
 
[ QUOTE ]
I dont mind a check on this flop

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I disagree. It's possible that hero still has the best hand, and a bet/fold finds that out much more easily than check/call, and check/fold just seems too weak.

12-16-2005 05:07 AM

Re: what to do with AA in this situation
 
I would more then likely call this. Such a big bet seems to me like pair of queens with a high kicker. And you can reavaluate on the turn...This is just what i would do by no means am i an expert...8)

12-16-2005 05:45 AM

Re: what to do with AA in this situation
 
This is a really tough call because a number of things go into your decision. You have to take into account his previous actions and what he has done with big hands before and if he plays position. From what I've seen, most micro limit players will slowplay a big hand off the flop and then bet heavy on the turn or river. His past actions would probably be my biggest determining factor. Because of the size of his raise he is almost all in and you don't have to worry about putting too much more in on later betting rounds. If he seemed to be a typical microlimit player and I felt I was pretty certain he would slowplay off the flop, I would probably just go ahead and put him all in for the rest of his money. (A call is useless here because he will almost always go all in on the turn and then you have to call.) However if I had any uncertainty about this player at all, I would lay it down.


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