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Gyre 12-15-2005 09:02 AM

77 blind defens vs TAG.
 
Villian is a TAG around 25/25/2.5 after fewish hands. Is this standard? Check turn och fold river?


Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls.

Turn: (6 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

River: (8 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10 BB

Jinx 12-15-2005 09:03 AM

Re: 77 blind defens vs TAG.
 
I'd call down after he check raises the flop. Maybe raise the turn and fold to a 3 bet given that it was an ace.

mythrilfox 12-15-2005 09:06 AM

Re: 77 blind defens vs TAG.
 
The river looks like an easy fold to me. I'm not sure about the rest of the hand but I probably would have played it the same (except for river call).

Gyre 12-15-2005 09:14 AM

Re: 77 blind defens vs TAG.
 
I have found that most TAGs check-raise the flopp with any pair in this situations so waiting to the turn with the raise and folding to a 3-bet might be a good line?

I agree I need to fold the river, no reason for him to bet a hand that i can beat here.

mythrilfox 12-15-2005 10:22 AM

Re: 77 blind defens vs TAG.
 
So you'd be raising the turn for value then? Or as a bluff? If an ace comes you are raising as a bluff, so I don't really like that scenario, if something else comes and you raise for value, do you really think a TAG calls you down here with a worse hand? That depends on the dynamic between you two, but it doesn't seem all that likely to me... given it is a blind war it could work but I don't think that you get him to call down w/ that line often enough to get the extra small bet or whatever. Also consider that hands like AJ/KJ/88-TT will be more inclined to call down a turn raise and then you lose more when you're behind but threaten to fold him out if you're ahead.

MATT111 12-15-2005 10:46 AM

Re: 77 blind defens vs TAG.
 
I vcall the flop and plan to raise the turn.
As the ace comes I think I rather let this go.

Gyre 12-15-2005 10:49 AM

Re: 77 blind defens vs TAG.
 
I dont see any god way to play this after the flop other then calling it down.

Most TAG's will check-raise this flop with hands lika A3, K3 and so on so I think that there is value to the flop-raise. If I don't raise on the flop or turn I realy need to see a showdown. So calling it down after his flop-raise can be that bad of a line.

LoaferGee12 12-15-2005 10:56 AM

Re: 77 blind defens vs TAG.
 
[ QUOTE ]
I dont see any god way to play this after the flop other then calling it down.

Most TAG's will check-raise this flop with hands lika A3, K3 and so on so I think that there is value to the flop-raise. If I don't raise on the flop or turn I realy need to see a showdown. So calling it down after his flop-raise can be that bad of a line.

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I agree. However, given that he checked, I might check behind and call one on the river.

jba 12-15-2005 12:38 PM

Re: 77 blind defens vs TAG.
 
I instafold this river. that is a value bet if I've ever seen one.

bobhalford 12-15-2005 02:27 PM

Re: 77 blind defens vs TAG.
 
After the flop action I would probably seek to show this hand down for cheap. On the turn, I would check behind because if he has the A, you are dead and he might raise you again. So you check and just call one more on the river unless you think you are really beat and can fold it.


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