OESD+Flush draw...do you call?
 

Been lurking here a while now, first hand post. Appreciate any feedback you care to give. Here it goes...
Within the first couple hands at table, no real reads on villains.

PokerRoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) converter

SB ($10.55)
BB ($14.55)
UTG ($24.05)
MP ($27.25)
Hero ($24.50)
Button ($20.45)

Preflop: Hero is CO with ,J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] .
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB raises to $1.65</font>, BB calls $1.40, UTG folds, MP folds, Hero calls $1.40.

Flop: ($5.45) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB bets $8.9 (All-In)</font>, BB calls $8.90, Hero ???.

BB has $4 left...
comments on preflop and flop appreciated.

Deftone420

Re: OESD+Flush draw...do you call?
 

Push here, BB will call. You have an excellent holding, and a good pot equity edge.

Re: OESD+Flush draw...do you call?
 

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Push here, BB will call. You have an excellent holding, and a good pot equity edge.

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What would you put BB on?

Re: OESD+Flush draw...do you call?
 

I think SB an overpair or AQ, and BB has a weaker queen and is hoping you will fold.

Re: OESD+Flush draw...do you call?
 

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Push here, BB will call. You have an excellent holding, and a good pot equity edge.

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What would you put BB on?

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Who cares, you have a combodraw getting better than 3-1. Push

Re: OESD+Flush draw...do you call?
 

AQ, Ahxh, AK, anything, really. Thing is, you're comfortably ahead of just about all of his possible hands, except maybe a set, which you're not bad against, either.

actually, my friends and i were discussing this the other day. Top set vs. OESD+FD. set has 10 outs to improve and be unbeatable, OESD+FD has 15 outs to improve, not all of which are clean, and any of which will be worthless if set hits any of his outs. i guess set is probably well ahead.

anyway, push confidently in this case.

Re: OESD+Flush draw...do you call?
 

How clean my outs were was my biggest concern. Seemed that with this board one or either of my draws could be suckers. Seeing monsters??

Re: OESD+Flush draw...do you call?
 

You have a 42% chance to win this hand, so a call is justified. Specifically, there is a 42% chance that you will make your straight or flush. Note that you could make your flush but someone else can fill up and beat you, or have a higher flush. Ditto for the straight: someone could fill up. On the other hand, you could hit two running cards to get an overset. These about average out (tho not exactly), so I'd say 42% is close enough.

With a greater than 33% chance to win, you can call a pot-sized bet (assuming no further betting). If someone bets pot and someone else calls, it's an easy call. Since BB only has $4 behind, it's an easy push.

You have 15 outs (assuming your str8 draw is to the nuts, and the flush will be good). That's about 2:1 for the next card. If there's going to be further betting, you can call a pot bet even if there's no other callers.

It doesn't matter that you're behind now. Hold'em is played with 7 cards.

Re: OESD+Flush draw...do you call?
 

to me, the $9 cold call from BB means one of two things:
-he has a monster like a set and he's being greedy
-he has a draw.

i still think this is a definite push in NL25.

Re: OESD+Flush draw...do you call?
 

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You have a 42% chance to win this hand

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i'm not sure that's a true statement.

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there is a 42% chance that you will make your straight or flush.

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i think the odds are greater than that.

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you could hit two running cards to get an overset.

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You would have three-of-a-kind and villain who had a set would now have a full house.

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It doesn't matter that you're behind now. Hold'em is played with 7 cards.

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there we go