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Obliky 12-12-2005 01:00 PM

T8s BB defence
 
This is my very first hand at the table..i havent played against these guys before.

Ultimate Bet 0.50/1 Hold'em (6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.40 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP calls.

Turn: (4.20 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

River: (6.20 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks...

Is it worth having a bluff at the river?
How about the rest of the hand?

jba 12-12-2005 01:04 PM

Re: T8s BB defence
 
rest of the hand looks good.

check/fold the river, that A is the death card.

milesdyson 12-12-2005 01:07 PM

Re: T8s BB defence
 
yeah don't try to bluff him out after he has called the turn. nh.

Benman 12-12-2005 01:09 PM

Re: T8s BB defence
 
I would bet this river for sure. I like the Ace, actually. Sure it may have hit him, but if not it looks just as scary to your oppponent as it does to you. You'll be successful at least 1 in 7 if not more.

jba 12-12-2005 01:10 PM

Re: T8s BB defence
 
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I would bet this river for sure. I like the Ace, actually. Sure it may have hit him, but if not it looks just as scary to your oppponent as it does to you. You'll be successful at least 1 in 7 if not more.

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range please?

Obliky 12-12-2005 01:10 PM

Re: T8s BB defence
 
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check/fold the river, that A is the death card.

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So in these situations are we check/folding any river unimproved against an unknown, or just the nasty ones?

Say the river card was 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or something like that...still check/fold?

Redd 12-12-2005 01:11 PM

Re: T8s BB defence
 
Is this preflop call standard? This doesn't look like a blind steal with 5 players left to act.

milesdyson 12-12-2005 01:15 PM

Re: T8s BB defence
 
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Is this preflop call standard? This doesn't look like a blind steal with 5 players left to act.

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i definitely think we can recoup some of our initial big blind by playing this hand against an unknown raiser in his position.

Benman 12-12-2005 01:15 PM

Re: T8s BB defence
 
I'm sorry, I'm not a frequent poster, so I'm not sure what you mean by range. Do you mean what could opponent have? If so, maybe some kind of low pocket pair. Also, he might be tight/weak and have some kind of queen, put you on overcards, and now disgustedly folds to a second board overcard. Keep in mind I'm sure the river bluff will "fail" quite often, but not more than 6 out of 7, in my opinion. I could be quite wrong, however!

Redd 12-12-2005 01:17 PM

Re: T8s BB defence
 
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Is this preflop call standard? This doesn't look like a blind steal with 5 players left to act.

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i definitely think we can recoup some of our initial big blind by playing this hand against an unknown raiser in his position.

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Interesting - I might be playing too tight in these situations. How low of a 1-gapper will you call here? How about 0-gappers?


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