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poker1O1 12-10-2005 08:28 PM

turn cap?
 
Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (7 handed)
utg 18/14/4
utg+1 45/3/1.2
BB unnkown
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Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises</font>, MP1 calls, 3 folds</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)</font>
Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (6 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)</font>
Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG folds, MP1 raises</font>, Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, MP1 caps</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (18 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls, BB folds.

Final Pot: 20 BB

silkyslim 12-10-2005 09:11 PM

Re: turn cap?
 
there is no UTG+1 in the hand yet there is a read for him, so I'll go ahead and assume you mean MP1 (be more careful). Ya, id lead/call the river. villain is capable of overplaying trips with his stats, there is no indication form his previous play that he has a boat or AJ. if he is willing to raise the river after you continue then i would start to worry and just call.

Klompy 12-10-2005 10:14 PM

Re: turn cap?
 
I think I fold this pre flop, but everything else looks alright.

pauliewalnuts 12-10-2005 10:21 PM

Re: turn cap?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I think I fold this pre flop, but everything else looks alright.

[/ QUOTE ]

Disagree with the first part, agree with the second part.

Klompy 12-10-2005 10:25 PM

Re: turn cap?
 
I do think it's prob close, but is calling a raise after one coldcaller with j,9s +ev. given the raiser is a little laggy but I still don't like the idea of having to play this for a raise oop in the sb. Please convince me otherwise?

pauliewalnuts 12-10-2005 10:39 PM

Re: turn cap?
 
My bad. Since there was no red font in the preflop action I thought there was no raise. Now that I see there is, I would definitely fold preflop. I'd probably need two more coldcallers with a hand this speculative.

12-11-2005 02:57 AM

Re: turn cap?
 
Your preflop play was a little loose, but if you don't hit you can fold, while if you do hit they won't see it coming.

I don't like you leading out on the flop. In most low-limit games (especially those on Party), pre-flop raisers invariably bet the flop, so this may have been a good chance to get a check-raise in there. You not only would increase the size of the pot, but also force BB to call 2 bets cold if he wishes to continue.

I like your decision to 3-bet the turn and simply check-call the river after MP1 caps the turn. Given the fact that MP1 called 2 bets cold preflop, MP1 is very likely to hold one of the hands that beats you (KT, QT, TT, QQ, KK, AJ), but you can't be sure. After MP1 capped the turn, I would suspect that you are beat, but since you're getting 19-1 on your call, you can't fold on the river, so your check-call was the right play there.

UCLAseetoK 12-11-2005 07:55 PM

Re: turn cap?
 
this is a standard pf fold


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