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starvs 12-06-2005 11:36 PM

Look what an awesome fold I made! (read: wtf am I doing?) - 50NL 6m
 
Villian (SB) was 32/10 over 100 hands or so. He seemed solid and had not gotten out of line, but 100 hands....

Empire Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB ($19.66)
UTG ($47.57)
MP ($44.15)
CO ($69.30)
Hero ($44.40)
SB ($64.65)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, SB (poster) calls $2.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $2.

Flop: ($8) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $30</font>, UTG folds.

Final Pot: $45

I had made a horrible call (push really) on the turn with AA, and I think this was in reaction to that. How bad is it really? Is there any merit to it at all?

-starvs, in the top 5 worst players, ever.

wdeadwyler 12-06-2005 11:40 PM

Re: Look what an awesome fold I made! (read: wtf am I doing?) - 50NL 6m
 
Without a read I would say this is a good fold.

12-06-2005 11:42 PM

Re: Look what an awesome fold I made! (read: wtf am I doing?) - 50NL 6m
 
i would push here, he may have put you on missed high cards and just making a std c/b. i think you are in front.

teamdonkey 12-07-2005 12:11 AM

Re: Look what an awesome fold I made! (read: wtf am I doing?) - 50NL 6m
 
good fold i think, well played all around.

starvs 12-07-2005 08:05 AM

Re: Look what an awesome fold I made! (read: wtf am I doing?) - 50NL 6
 
I said both of those things to myself when reviewing the hand, good fold, and I really could be ahead here, and I'm still not sure which is right. Any more input or reasoning?

thanks
-starvs

12-07-2005 09:31 AM

Re: Look what an awesome fold I made! (read: wtf am I doing?) - 50NL 6m
 
What beats you?

AA? Should be a re-raise from SB pf.

88/77/55? horrible overbet here.

6-4 or 6-9? wtf is he calling your position raise with garbage for AND he overbet the made str8.

This feels like a c/b to me, or even QQ-TT

Push AI.

Andrew Fletcher 12-07-2005 09:36 AM

Re: Look what an awesome fold I made! (read: wtf am I doing?) - 50NL 6
 
[ QUOTE ]
Without a read I would say this is a good fold.

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starvs 12-07-2005 06:31 PM

Re: Look what an awesome fold I made! (read: wtf am I doing?) - 50NL 6
 
[ QUOTE ]
What beats you?

AA? Should be a re-raise from SB pf.

88/77/55? horrible overbet here.

6-4 or 6-9? wtf is he calling your position raise with garbage for AND he overbet the made str8.

This feels like a c/b to me, or even QQ-TT

Push AI.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think this sums it up and I'm leaning towards pushing now, but people just do weird [censored], so those overbets could be a reality.

He ended up showing JJ so I should of just pushed. Maybe next time...

Thanks for all the help

-starvs

stu-unger 12-07-2005 06:45 PM

Re: Look what an awesome fold I made! (read: wtf am I doing?) - 50NL 6
 
i fold this 11 times out of 10 without a read here...

Kyriefurro 12-07-2005 06:48 PM

Re: Look what an awesome fold I made! (read: wtf am I doing?) - 50NL 6m
 
[ QUOTE ]
I had made a horrible call (push really) on the turn with AA

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I am assuming that this happened somewhat recently (last 20 hands or so) and on this same table.

Imagine that I'm villain and I saw this mistake. Now, I've just managed to flop a set. Since I've already seen you call a large bet with just an overpair, I'm thinking you'll maybe do the same thing here. And if you fold, I still get the money, just less of it.

All said, I think your fold is good.

P.S. Villain's raise isn't really that much of an overbet: $8 pot + $7 from you + $7 to call = 22, so the $30 bet is only 8 bucks extra...not quite 150% PSB. Yes an overbet, but not exactly a monsterous bet. (What I'm wondering is, since this raise leaves villain with ~$10 behind, why he didn't just push it all in heh.)


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