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Maulik 12-05-2005 08:24 PM

A semi-rock, I took BB\'s stack earlier...
 
vpip 31.6/ pfr 1.92

This was a villain from earlier where I took his stack, I don't remember the situation but it wasn't an outdraw.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB ($117)
UTG ($111.50)
Hero ($228.13)
SB ($49)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $15</font>, Hero calls $12.

Flop: ($32.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $21</font>, Hero calls $21.

Turn: ($74.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $21</font>,
Hero pushes for the rest $121.

River: (231) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $231

edit:fixed

EMcWilliams 12-05-2005 08:27 PM

Re: A semi-rock, I took BB\'s stack earlier...
 
Might need to fix the hand.

PoBoy321 12-05-2005 08:30 PM

Re: A semi-rock, I took BB\'s stack earlier...
 
With those stats, I fold to the pre-flop reraise.

wdeadwyler 12-05-2005 08:44 PM

Re: A semi-rock, I took BB\'s stack earlier...
 
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With those stats, I fold to the pre-flop reraise.

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I dont like it, looks like hero is ahead here, but if he is not, I dont think villain is dumping his hand. Why not just call down and bet river if villain checks to him? What better hands are you gonna get villain to fold? What are you protecting against. I hate it.
I also strongly consider folding preflop, but once Im at the flop, Ill just call him down.

I still cant get over the turn push, will he fold AK there? Likely not... Can he have AQ in that spot. Eww

Edit: Actually, I definately fold preflop.

Maulik 12-05-2005 09:16 PM

Re: A semi-rock, I took BB\'s stack earlier...
 
Clearly I am not demonstrating that I was stealing his blinds and stacked the villain. He could be raising w/ a much wider range of hands against me in the BB, knowing my range is big...

Perhaps the turn push is terrible--what worse hand calls, I'm not sure Ax-J. Nonetheless, PF I'm not folding to this villain given the stacking and my constant raising of his blinds...

12-06-2005 01:33 AM

Re: A semi-rock, I took BB\'s stack earlier...
 
When I see the words semi-rock, I instantly say KA or better, and you're behind the whole way.

wdeadwyler 12-06-2005 01:35 AM

Re: A semi-rock, I took BB\'s stack earlier...
 
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Perhaps the turn push is terrible--what worse hand calls, I'm not sure Ax-J. Nonetheless, PF I'm not folding to this villain given the stacking and my constant raising of his blinds...

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Yes, the turn push is terrible, any hand you are beating is drawing WAAAAY behind you, and he is more than charging himself for them. All the hands you are beating are going knowhere. Why not let him continue to bet?

I still think you should fold preflop, I simply dont see him reppopping with less than 1010, and there is nothing in his reraise range you are AHEAD of ( I think so at least)

Hypothetical,

If hero calls turn (which I think is best), and villain checks to hero on a non q or k river, how much should hero bet, if any at all?

Maulik 12-06-2005 12:36 PM

Re: A semi-rock, I took BB\'s stack earlier...
 
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If hero calls turn (which I think is best), and villain checks to hero on a non q or k river, how much should hero bet, if any at all?

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Check behind.

Villain had 22 for a frustrated Maulik [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

wdeadwyler 12-06-2005 12:45 PM

Re: A semi-rock, I took BB\'s stack earlier...
 
What would you have done if villain made a real bet on the turn, say half pot or so?

12-06-2005 12:49 PM

Re: A semi-rock, I took BB\'s stack earlier...
 
Unexpected hand for villain to turn over, I fold preflop as well, but I really didn't expect a suckout.

cambraceres


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