turning donk
 

Villain is 34/20/2.2 over 400 hands. Pretty aggro, but not totally insane. He has an aggressive impression of me, and I think he could 3 bet down to AT/9s, 77

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.70 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, Hero calls.

I considered c/c b/c. I considered turn c/r. I considered 3 betting his riase. I thought he might see a river donk coming, and take free turn with underpair.

Re: turning donk
 

I'd check-raise the flop instead, try and go for bets there. Sometimes when you slow play like this, and he doesnt have an ace, they lose their mouth off the hook.

Re: turning donk
 

cap preflop. you have a slight edge over his stated range, and it will be easier to know where you stand postflop if you keep the initiative.
the way you played it, i check-raise the flop.

Re: turning donk
 

With this player I maintain more control over the hand by not capping preflop. I think this outweighs the small edge I forfeit by not capping. He has position and I should plan on seeing showdown, as it is quite possible he could push me off of the best hand.

Re: turning donk
 

there's no reason to give up preflop equity.
if you miss the flop, you can check-call the whole way if you are intent on showing down, and it may end up being cheaper because cap/check will confuse the hell out of him.

Re: turning donk
 

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he doesnt have an ace, they lose their mouth off the hook.

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I thought this was why I c/c'd the flop. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

What's my plan if he 3-bets the flop c/r? He might do this without an A, and go into c/f c/f mode. Or he might do this with a weaker A. This guy was tricky and aggressive, but I wouldn't be that surprised if it was one of you crazy LAGs.

Re: turning donk
 

my equity edge is really, really, quite tiny. HE has position, and I gain a tactical advantage by not capping. I leave my hand range ambiguous, so he is more likely to misread me later.

Re: turning donk
 

I like the turn action, Bet Call avoids a horrible 3betted situation but you still get an idea on how much he likes his hand.

i think this hand is played pretty well, river card?

p.s. I think you're often ahead here so i may also bet the river.

Re: turning donk
 

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I like the turn action, Bet Call avoids a horrible 3betted situation but you still get an idea on how much he likes his hand.

i think this hand is played pretty well, river card?

p.s. I think you're often ahead here so i may also bet the river.

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I agree with my sexually frustrated friend here

smells like free showdown. However being out of position I don't like 3betting the turn -- our hand is not worth 5 big bets

Re: turning donk
 

Bet the river again.