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pokerjoker 12-04-2005 01:40 AM

should I move down?
 
So...I lost $1400 this weekend. I didn't tilt. I actually played quite well. I had bad beat after bad beat and whenever I had a good hand someone else seemed to have a great hand. I am a bit confused about this 20 Buy ins thing. I HAD 20 buyins..but now my bankroll is $2600. (overall I am up about $9000 total in 5 months, but poker is my only job and I've been spending a lot of money) I have been 6 tabling 200NL So what do I do?

DeezNutz3 12-04-2005 01:51 AM

Re: should I move down?
 
Sounds like it might be variance but I would look through some hands and play less tables until you can pinpoint your downswing. Best of Luck.

Donny

StacysMom 12-04-2005 02:14 AM

Re: should I move down?
 
Move up to win it back faster?

ZBTHorton 12-04-2005 02:15 AM

Re: should I move down?
 
I personally believe you need 30-50 buyins in order to play NL properly.

12-04-2005 02:29 AM

Re: should I move down?
 
well -7 buyins is actually alot.. in the start when i "thought" i was playing good (but i wasnt), i had many 4-5 buyin swings daily..but then i fixed my game and realized that i just wasnt as good as i thought i was .i suggest you fix your game. and 20buyin is just a number. i always keep a bigger roll then i should. you should move down and fix your game and then move back up. unless u want to fight it out like me and stay in 200nl but i had a bigger roll. so i suggest you move down. peace. and i have a thread somewhere about what happened with me in 200nl.. that might help.

KKbluff 12-04-2005 02:47 AM

Re: should I move down?
 
Move down, try and plug a few leaks if any, build back that what you lost, and THEN go back to your regular game.

That is what I do when I experience swings like you are going through.

Moving down and winning more hands helps build confidence as well which you will want to have when you re-approach your 200NL game again.

Best of luck

KKbluff 12-04-2005 02:51 AM

Re: should I move down?
 
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Move up to win it back faster?

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Also try the martingale system! [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

OrianasDaad 12-04-2005 03:11 AM

Re: should I move down?
 
If you are asking the question, then odds are that you should move down.

After a big loss, I go back and seriously study the way I played. I write it down in a little notebook. Develop your own, honest, system to determine how you are doing.

Most of the time, it's due to me playing badly according to the fundamental theory, and sometimes just playing badly overall.

If poker is your only job, then 20 buy-ins seems like a pretty short bankroll for NL. Since you are making regular withdrawals (as poker is your only source of income), then you need to have a larger bankroll to cover for the months where you don't do so well. This would also suggest moving down in limits. Mabye two or three times what is required by theory.

OrianasDaad 12-04-2005 03:14 AM

Re: should I move down?
 
I sometimes do this after big wins as well. It's important to remember that bad play can win money in the short term, and it's important not to reinforce bad habits by winning with them.

ryanghall 12-04-2005 03:26 AM

Re: should I move down?
 
If poker was my job, I'd certainly want more than 20 buyins.

I'm 10 buyins down from my peak myself at the moment, and I just moved down a level (although hopefully I'll be back up soon).

There's no shame in moving down. I've had to at every single level - and I've always moved back up successfully.

Ryan


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