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12-03-2005 02:25 PM

AK play vs. TAGy
 
Villian is 24/11 over 54 hands. I did a post a little while ago and most people seem to agree that I am not seeing showdown enough (24% WTSD) and folding the turn too much. I am trying to improve this... how is this hand?

My WTSD% for this session (400 hands 3 tabling Pokerroom) was 33%.

Also, can anyone give some suggestions of types of hands I should post to improve my WTSD% and turn play?


Sorry, HH converter wasn't working.

Texas Hold'em $2-$4 (real money), hand #1,543,073,501
Table Nee Soon, 2 Dec 2005 11:45 PM ET

Seat 1: CharliesArmy
Seat 2: rhinonyssus
Seat 3: darana
Seat 4: PepperJester
Seat 5: Hero [ AD,KD ]
Seat 6: sevice
Seat 7: Imadonkey
ANTES/BLINDS
PepperJester posts blind ($1), Hero posts blind ($2).

PRE-FLOP
sevice folds, Imadonkey folds, CharliesArmy bets $4, rhinonyssus folds, darana folds, PepperJester folds, Hero calls $2.

FLOP [board cards 8C,QD,7S ]
Hero checks, CharliesArmy bets $2, Hero bets $4, CharliesArmy bets $4, Hero calls $2.

TURN [board cards 8C,QD,7S,9H ]
Hero checks, CharliesArmy bets $4, Hero calls $4.

RIVER [board cards 8C,QD,7S,9H,10H ]
Hero checks, CharliesArmy bets $4, Hero calls $4.


MainEvent 12-03-2005 02:28 PM

Re: AK play vs. TAGy
 
I would have played it the same...

12-03-2005 02:34 PM

Re: AK play vs. TAGy
 
Why is this worth calling the river? IF this player is a TAG he beats you with anything except for AK and does he 3-bet this on the flop?

I c/f the turn and if I don't c/f the turn I c/f the river as AT and AJ now beat me.

Also he has to have AK 14/4 (1 in 3.5)for this call to be correct, which I think is far from legitimate.

newhizzle 12-03-2005 02:37 PM

Re: AK play vs. TAGy
 
3 bet preflop, the way you played it you can fold the turn against a reasonable opponent

12-03-2005 02:40 PM

Re: AK play vs. TAGy
 
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3 bet preflop, the way you played it you can fold the turn against a reasonable opponent

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I am not sure I agree with the 3-bet pf due to our position, but it is close.

12-03-2005 02:41 PM

Re: AK play vs. TAGy
 
I agree with True, this is a horrible calldown. Just about anything beats you. Any pocket pair and any hand with a 6,7,8,9,10,J,or Q in it beats you. Your only hope is a split with AK, and I highly doubt AK is betting this river.

newhizzle 12-03-2005 02:55 PM

Re: AK play vs. TAGy
 
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3 bet preflop, the way you played it you can fold the turn against a reasonable opponent

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I am not sure I agree with the 3-bet pf due to our position, but it is close.

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im 3-betting this every time, AKs is ahead of a TAG middle openers range and it gives us more fold equity on the flop if we miss

Bill Smith 12-03-2005 03:03 PM

Re: AK play vs. TAGy
 
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im 3-betting this every time, AKs is ahead of a TAG middle openers range and it gives us more fold equity on the flop if we miss

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I concur. As played, flop is good, fold turn.

12-03-2005 03:04 PM

Re: AK play vs. TAGy
 
Yea, river call was pretty out of line. What about the turn though? Most people think I should fold the turn or call one more bet?

newhizzle 12-03-2005 03:06 PM

Re: AK play vs. TAGy
 
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Yea, river call was pretty out of line. What about the turn though? Most people think I should fold the turn or call one more bet?

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getting 6 to 1 on that board after the flop action, i think you can fold


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