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jsnipes28 12-02-2005 09:11 PM

TPGK on monotone board
 
PokerPlex 50NL 6MAX(getting my free $50, are you?)
Both Players have roughly ~50 and villain has been raising a number of hands although they havent gotten to showdown yet. Seems decent, but no real reads. Maybe 15-20 hands at table.
Hero is UTG with A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and calls .5
MP1 folds, MP2 raises to 2.5, all folds to hero who calls 2.
Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero checks, MP bets 5, Hero raises to 14, Villain raises all in.

I assume that this is a pretty clear fold, but generally should i lead or c/r a flop like this. or is c/c and lead turn a better idea.

orange 12-02-2005 09:19 PM

Re: TPGK on monotone board
 
I think fold is best. You are not ahead of much. I don't like a c/r on the flop- leading is best IMO.

Reef 12-02-2005 09:27 PM

Re: TPGK on monotone board
 
you're either a little ahead or a lot behind IMO. You can fold this

TexArcher 12-02-2005 09:30 PM

Re: TPGK on monotone board
 
I lead at it on the flop, and you can definitely lay this down.

I'm also raising pre-flop.

jsnipes28 12-02-2005 09:34 PM

Re: TPGK on monotone board
 
i would usually raise this preflop but i was relatively new at the table and was trying to figure out the "hustle and flow" of the table before i started doing too much

Hattifnatt 12-02-2005 09:34 PM

Re: TPGK on monotone board
 
I would just lead and fold if he raises.

Big_Jim 12-02-2005 09:54 PM

Re: TPGK on monotone board
 
Why no PF raise? MIxinG iT uP?!

That flop c/r is really gross, I hate bluffing with TPGK.

Against an unkown, there are two lines I would consider:

Bet/Fold flop. Bet/Fold turn if called. Check/Call river. (all assuming no hearts hit, check/fold if they do).

Check/Call Flop. Bet/Fold turn. Check/Call river.

I lean toward the latter, because then we get continuation bet monies in, and make him less likely to semi-bluff the turn.

ajmargarine 12-02-2005 10:00 PM

Re: TPGK on monotone board
 
I lean toward the c/c flop line also. I want to get out if another heart hits the turn, and I want his odds cut in half when a non-heart hits the turn. You're just opening yourself up to a villian push here by c/r'ing which you shouldn't have done, IMO, if you weren't willing to get all-in, which you shouldn't be.


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