Giving up to Early?
 

I wanted to know if I gave this hand up too early or how you some of you would play this. This was the second hand I was dealt after being moved so I had no reads available. We were down to under 1,000 players at this point and the previous table was fairly tight.

I struggle with hands like this I think. From my Limit games I guess I get the idea this needs to be raised but I guess maybe not in a NL tourney?? Also I do concede that If i'm going to raise, it probably needs to be more than this to discourage people from calling.... I don't really know why I raised this, I think I must have used the slider bar thing and not gotten it to 450. Thanks for the help.


Party Poker 40k guaranteed No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (10 handed) converter
Blinds 75/150

UTG+1 (t2280)
UTG+2 (t3456)
MP1 (t6741)
MP2 (t450)
MP3 (t3183)
CO (t2408)
Button (t3206)
SB (t2636)
BB (t1706)
Hero (t2920)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t375</font>, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, SB calls t300, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t900) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero Bets t500, SB calls t500.

Turn: (t1400) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: (t1400) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t1100</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t2500

I made the flop bet assuming this was my only opportunity to win the hand. Either he'd come over the top or fold. The call kinda throws me and I pretty much concede the hand at that point absent of reads on the sb.

Re: Giving up to Early?
 

you played it fine. nothing else to be done with this hand.

Re: Giving up to Early?
 

I'm pretty sure SB has an Ace or Queen, good fold.

Re: Giving up to Early?
 

good fold. but your title suggests that it was somewhere early in the hand, this is all the way at the river. can't fault your play here IMO.

Re: Giving up to Early?
 

this is exactly how i play it.

Re: Giving up to Early?
 

Does anyone fire a second barrel here on the turn?

700 more leaves you 1500 behind.. If he calls, you'll probably get to check behind on the river, if he re-raises you know you're beat, and he has a chance to fold.

How often do we think a smaller PP or KJ/JT/KT/some other junk are found here?

Re: Giving up to Early?
 

Raise to 450 preflop.

No reads? If villain is tight, then he's not calling the flop bet without an ace. If villain is loose, he might be calling with a gutshot straight draw or a queen he is willing to fold to another bet. Checking behind is ALWAYS giving up on a hand in their eyes. I would bet 450 on the flop, 700 on the turn. Fold to a raise, check behind if checked to on the river. If he donks the river, fold.

Re: Giving up to Early?
 

I might check the flop - just because you are sort of committed to a turn bet if you check the flop. I think you can 'sell' more hands by checking the flop. Depending on your image and perceived UTG raising range, you would probably check behind on this flop "slowplaying" with a lot of hands as well as KK fearing the A.