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JerBear77 12-01-2005 11:06 AM

Starting hand strait....too tight???
 
I play mostly 1/2 and 2/4, so i want my starting hand strait to work for those levels.

Basically, I find my self pushing too many marginal hands post flop when I should be folding all together, I think.

So here's my strait, revised from a post I found here....

http://www.tightpoker.com/texasholde...ldem_guide.doc
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Power Hands: AA, KK, QQ –
Best Played In: Any Position
Raised: Always
Folded: Never
Requisite Callers: Any Number
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Top Pair Hands: AK, AQ, AJ, KQ, KJ –

Best Played In: Middle/Late Position
Raised: AK, AQ- Often in any position, AJ, KQ, KJ-Sometimes in late position
Folded: AK-Never, AQ-Rarely, AJ, KQ, KJ-Often
Requisite Callers: To Raise—one or less
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Middle Pocket Pairs: JJ, TT, 99 –
Best Played In: Any Position
Raised: Sometimes in Late Position
Folded: Sometimes against heavy betting
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Drawing Hands: AT,KQ, KJ, QJ, KT, QT, JT, T9, 89, Axs, 22:99 –
Best Played In: Late Position (Button/One off Button)
Raised: Rarely
Folded: Often
Requisite Callers: At least three in addition to blinds
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I find that when I play to this, im VPIP about 12% and im loosing alot of Suited hands that are playable (J9s, T8s)

Is this too tight preflop? thoughts...

I the other side, I have been doing about 4BB/100 over the last 5K hands, which is better than i have done before, but am i loosing some potential money here on certain situations.

mack848 12-01-2005 11:42 AM

Re: Starting hand strait....too tight???
 
These look far too tight. You should be nearer 20% than 12%. Loads of suited hands are playable in small stakes games. AJo,KQo and 99 are raises for me UTG. I also play small pairs from early position in most games. You can do this at 1/2 & 2/4.

I recommend buying Small Stakes Holdem.

JerBear77 12-01-2005 11:55 AM

Re: Starting hand strait....too tight???
 
[ QUOTE ]
These look far too tight. You should be nearer 20% than 12%. Loads of suited hands are playable in small stakes games. AJo,KQo and 99 are raises for me UTG. I also play small pairs from early position in most games. You can do this at 1/2 & 2/4.

I recommend buying Small Stakes Holdem.

[/ QUOTE ]

I have that book...but I think i have been trying to push hands OOP too much that's why i felt that there needed to be a change of plan up front.

How do you treat your SB and 1 gap connectors?

mack848 12-01-2005 12:15 PM

Re: Starting hand strait....too tight???
 
Asking how to play preflop is a huge question and one that I don't feel qualified or inclined to do. If you have SSHE, I would re-read the preflop sections and try to incorporate many of the ideas into your game.

You are playing in games with loose players. If 4 or 5 are regularly seeing the flop, you should be looking for situations to raise when you have a probable equity advantage and looking to see cheap flops with small pairs, high/medium suited connectors and high unsuited connectors. etc., etc.

I'd advise reading this classic post - "You play too tight"

12-01-2005 05:20 PM

Re: Starting hand strait....too tight???
 
Play more pocket pairs for set value.

Always raise with AK and JJ.

Raise more on button or cutoff.


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