Marginal Hands from EP
 

Typical 10 handed 1/2 level; not overly tight or loose preflop, table average vpip 30. A couple of loose passive fish, a weak/tight table coach, yall know how it goes.

UTG is one of the looser players on the table, and doesnt show any respect to position.

SB is unlikely to defend to a raise without at least AJ, BB on the other hand will defend his blind with any 2 suited, broadway, or connectors.

You are sitting in UTG+1.

What do you do in the following situations?

Re: Marginal Hands from EP
 

full ring is such a fading memory. at this table i'm raising all the aces and folding all the kings here.

Re: Marginal Hands from EP
 

limp
limp
fold
fold
raise
fold

I know a lot of guys don't like open limping, but at utg+1 I will with ATo. I'm not sure if I like this the more I think about it, but that's what I'm doing as of now.

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I'm curious, ATo and AJo run pretty damn close but one is a fold for most people and one a raise. Is this arbitrary or do I just suck?

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wow... all answers seem pretty definitive

i think AJo to ATo is a pretty huge slide down the slippery scale of kicker wars

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I did mine based off of SSHE. I believe they say you can limp KJo from early.

I know I'm supposed to not rely on the book, but I do believe it's strong enough to at least limp

Crovax

Re: Marginal Hands from EP
 

I have fold on all of them. The only hand I would play would be AJo if I was first in, in which case I would raise.

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I do suck really badly, but I do not think AJo and ATo are that close. AJo is a fairly big winning hand for me and ATo is a marginal (in BB/100) for me--now this is DEFINITELY because I suck, but I can't suck so badly as to account for this difference (on second thought, I can).

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KJ offsuit is a pretty big loser for me as well, EXCEPT for 3 off the Button and better--here it is a marginal winner.

Re: Marginal Hands from EP
 

I finally found the old thread with what I think is an excellent discussion on hands like these. Here it is.