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Villian is 32/9 over 50 or so hands so meh

Looking back at this hand there's nothing here I beat on the river and I should have folded. If the river was a non diamond (like 6 of clubs) would that turn the river fold into a river call?

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (5 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

River: (5.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 7.50 BB

Cheers

Steve Griff

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Can I do it? No, I'm not gonna do it. Oh, I can't resist.

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Yes yes yes.

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I nearly slapped myself for calling that river. Time to give up for the day, since this was a loose one

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You could bet/fold. He could very well be bluffing at the scare card since you checked to him....

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You could bet/fold. He could very well be bluffing at the scare card since you checked to him....

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The problem is that if your opponent is reasonable there is pretty much nothing that he could have called a turn bet with that doesn't have our hero beat on the river.

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You could bet/fold. He could very well be bluffing at the scare card since you checked to him....

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I think it's a pretty easy check/fold...what is villian calling the turn with that he doesn't beat hero by the river?

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Wow, I'm dumb. Didn't realize hero was UI, somehow thought he had TPTK....

Check/fold.....

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with this villain and this pot, I think so.

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You must fold the river against this opponent. He at least has a pair. If I had more of a feel for his post-flop play, I might find a check-fold on the turn, but I'd probably bet the turn most of the time (like OP).


Tom

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Wow, I'm dumb. Didn't realize hero was UI, somehow thought he had TPTK....

Check/fold.....

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if he had TPTK, bet-call &gt; bet-fold IMO. no fold TPTK HU on riv to a measly three flush board. gimme a 3 flush 4 card straight board, all in the 8-J range, and we can talk foldy.