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ggbman 11-28-2005 11:08 PM

AKs, give me a line
 
I realize i could fold preflop, i just didn't this time. What do you do on the flop?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG+1 ($2000)
Hero ($2037)
MP1 ($1565)
MP2 ($2669)
MP3 ($1000)
CO ($1970)
Button ($1987)
SB ($1642)
BB ($3666.50)
UTG ($2803)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $20. SB posts a blind of $10.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $80</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls $80, Button calls $80, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $310</font>, Hero calls $250, CO calls $250, Button calls $250.

Flop: ($1350) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ...

James282 11-28-2005 11:11 PM

Re: AKs, give me a line
 
I go all in.
-James

Garland 11-28-2005 11:12 PM

Re: AKs, give me a line
 
I don't think you will lose much by folding to a massive 3-bet by a standard opponent with AK every time.

That said, you played it. The pot is big and slow-playing is wrong. Given the pot size and your stack, I'd just push here.

Garland

ggbman 11-28-2005 11:14 PM

Re: AKs, give me a line
 
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I don't think you will lose much by folding to a massive 3-bet by a standard opponent with AK every time.

That said, you played it. The pot is big and slow-playing is wrong. Given the pot size and your stack, I'd just push here.

Garland

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Just FWIW, i fold here 85% of the time, sometimes i just like to balance it out.

AZK 11-28-2005 11:16 PM

Re: AKs, give me a line
 
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I don't think you will lose much by folding to a massive 3-bet by a standard opponent with AK every time.

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it's not that huge, but yea a large part of the time i fold preflop

edit: who was this against?

BobboFitos 11-29-2005 12:17 AM

Re: AKs, give me a line
 
do alot of you really fold here pf? I'm not saying I wouldn't, but in a shorthanded game thats a squeeze play a huge % of the time.

when it's on BB, there's 270$ dead out there. hmmm.

creedofhubris 11-29-2005 12:46 AM

Re: AKs, give me a line
 
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do alot of you really fold here pf? I'm not saying I wouldn't, but in a shorthanded game thats a squeeze play a huge % of the time.

when it's on BB, there's 270$ dead out there. hmmm.

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This is 10-handed, and he raised from early position. You gotta respect that.

yvesaint 11-29-2005 12:51 AM

Re: AKs, give me a line
 
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do alot of you really fold here pf? I'm not saying I wouldn't, but in a shorthanded game thats a squeeze play a huge % of the time.

when it's on BB, there's 270$ dead out there. hmmm.

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if BB is any good, this cant be a squeeze play. he has to have noticed how loose these guys are. his rr got EVERYONE to call - im sure theres been a ton of cold-calling before.

BobboFitos 11-29-2005 01:04 AM

Re: AKs, give me a line
 
[ QUOTE ]
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do alot of you really fold here pf? I'm not saying I wouldn't, but in a shorthanded game thats a squeeze play a huge % of the time.

when it's on BB, there's 270$ dead out there. hmmm.

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This is 10-handed, and he raised from early position. You gotta respect that.

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I do respect it, creed. and I would too fold this alot of the time. I'm merely suggesting another perspective.

Also, fwiw, I think flatcalling his big raise is the worst option.

ggbman 11-29-2005 01:10 AM

Re: AKs, give me a line
 
I think there is serious merit to folding, but calling is definitly better than shoving IMO. The only benefit to shoving is when he folds QQ, but other than that its just bad.


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