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gumpzilla 11-27-2005 02:58 PM

PS $11, first hand - AA flops bad
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button (t1500)
SB (t1500)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)
Hero (t1500)
CO (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t60</font>, CO calls t60, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls t40.

Flop: (t190) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t60</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t250</font>, CO folds, BB calls t190.

Turn: (t690) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: (t690) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB bets 200, Hero pushes, BB calls.

Final Pot: t690

tigerite 11-27-2005 03:04 PM

Re: PS $11, first hand - AA flops bad
 
I think this is pretty much fine, but I'm torn about the push on the river. Will he really call a set or two pair here, given that both flush and straight possibilities (and the straight one with just the card you would have raised with pf) out? I can't honestly see it myself, though if he really has hit running clubs, he's a lucky bastard.

Meh, I just think pushing, the best you are going to get is a split. I think a call is marginally better.

durron597 11-27-2005 03:07 PM

Re: PS $11, first hand - AA flops bad
 
I like just calling here better, he's probably not going to call you without an ace and you lose the times he has AK[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or AQ[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

gumpzilla 11-27-2005 03:10 PM

Re: PS $11, first hand - AA flops bad
 
1) I think he might call with a 9, and maybe even with some two pair hands. Maybe. I agree it's pretty unlikely, but . . .

2) . . . I think it's very, very unlikely that he picked up the backdoor flush draw.

I agree with you guys that most of the time it will be a split, and against a player I thought was reasonably good I just call behind, but I think an unknown at the $11s is somewhat more likely to pay me with inferior hands than show up with two clubs here. I'd have already known if he had A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], for example.

EDIT: The thing I was most curious was whether everybody else checked behind on the turn as well.

bawcerelli 11-27-2005 03:28 PM

Re: PS $11, first hand - AA flops bad
 
yeah, i wouldn't have raised that river. since he lead out at you, he at least has the ace. no sense in raising for what you hope will be a chop (he's not calling with a 9). as for the check turn, i'm ok with it.


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