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11-25-2005 09:32 PM

Flopped a monster, but way too many people in ...
 
Party 30+3. I had the implied odds to call the min raise and flopped a boat. But there were a ton of callers after a small flop bet by the person on my left. Should I push here or wait (I only have around 600 chips left at the flop)?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB (t800)
UTG (t1170)
Hero (t755)
UTG+2 (t2050)
MP1 (t3225)
MP2 (t1805)
MP3 (t1585)
CO (t2100)
Button (t3350)
SB (t2260)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls t50, Hero calls t50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t100</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls t100, SB calls t75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls t50, Hero calls t50.

Flop: (t550) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t100</font>, Button calls t100, SB calls t100, UTG calls t100, Hero?

nsj 11-25-2005 09:37 PM

Re: Flopped a monster, but way too many people in ...
 
You have T655 behind? 950 in the pot?
Just push. Hope to get called by a heart draw and a 5, and triple up. You don't have enough left to fold the hands that you want to be calling you, and that's great.

Simplistic 11-25-2005 09:43 PM

Re: Flopped a monster, but way too many people in ...
 
i prefer min-raising or raising to 300 here then getting it in on the turn.

adanthar 11-25-2005 09:45 PM

Re: Flopped a monster, but way too many people in ...
 
Fold this PF the first time, and...I dunno, you can either push or just call but I push when confused.

Melchiades 11-25-2005 10:10 PM

Re: Flopped a monster, but way too many people in ...
 
Call and make some sort of donk bet at the turn, trying to get it all in. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

11-25-2005 10:20 PM

Re: Flopped a monster, but way too many people in ...
 
From that flop I would push and pray for callers as well.

Not to get off the subject, but is it a bit loose to limp with this from UTG2? What do you do if it's raised a lot behind you? I don't like getting in these situations with low pocket pairs this early in the tourney.

Thanks for the feedback, and be gentle [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

11-25-2005 10:37 PM

Re: Flopped a monster, but way too many people in ...
 
I'd play it limit-style: make a donkish miniraise to about 200-300, hoping to pull as many callers along as possible. Then push the turn.

11-25-2005 10:44 PM

Re: Flopped a monster, but way too many people in ...
 
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Not to get off the subject, but is it a bit loose to limp with this from UTG2? What do you do if it's raised a lot behind you? I don't like getting in these situations with low pocket pairs this early in the tourney.

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With your stack and these blinds, I never limp, it's either a raise or fold and with 33 here I fold. If it was 10/20 level and I had a normal stack of 1500 I would limp hoping to flop a set since its only 20 out of 1500, here its 50 out of 700, not to mention the bet to 100.

Oh and I make a raise to 300 on the flop and push the turn. This will probably get me 2 callers atleast, maybe even more.

11-25-2005 10:45 PM

Re: Flopped a monster, but way too many people in ...
 
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I'd play it limit-style: make a donkish miniraise to about 200-300, hoping to pull as many callers along as possible. Then push the turn.

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11-25-2005 10:46 PM

Re: Flopped a monster, but way too many people in ...
 
the only hands to worry about here are 5 x and pp's that might hit on the turn or river. 5 3 is too unlikely. make them pay a little more and make a decision on the flop. i would raise to 300-ish or push here. you're ahead of the three fives and pp's enough so that you want to get more money out of the situation.
I would just call with only one opponent, but with this many opponents i would raise.
Mike


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