fold the turn?
 

villian is 53/19/1.3
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Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: (2.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

as i look back to my hand i thing i should have folded the river, what do you tnhink?

Re: fold the turn?
 

I dont think so. He looks like a player who would raise any ace or pp preflop.

Re: fold the turn?
 

yes, bu he is also better with any 5 better kicker, I dont know if that kind of player would semi/bluff this river

Re: fold the turn?
 

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yes, bu he is also better with any 5 better kicker, I dont know if that kind of player would semi/bluff this river

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I can't tell if you are talking about the turn or river. On the turn, yes, any 5 with a better kicker has you beat, but you have 4 outs to straights, 3 outs to two pair, and plenty of outs that will chop the pot.

There is no such thing as semi-bluffing the river.

He may semi-bluff the turn with hearts.

He almost never has an ace, and you may be chopping, and you may be winning. I call the river. If the 4 hadn't come, I think this would be much closer, and I might fold.

Re: fold the turn?
 

well i was talking about turn, with semi/bluff i mean exactly flush draw, when i called the turn i woul call almost any river card (is this not good)
what makes you fold if the second 4 wouldent come? ie what card(s) are you afreid?

Re: fold the turn?
 

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well i was talking about turn, with semi/bluff i mean exactly flush draw, when i called the turn i woul call almost any river card (is this not good)
what makes you fold if the second 4 wouldent come? ie what card(s) are you afreid?

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It is not so much that I would be scared of the cards, it is just I think we are probably losing here. The reason I like the 4 so much is because it gives us half the pot whenever he was raising the turn with the 5. I guess I call the river sometimes, but I am trying to fold more when I think I am beat, and the pot isn't huge.

Re: fold the turn?
 

Had it not been for your gutter I would have folded the turn and not made it to the river fold.

Re: fold the turn?
 

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Had it not been for your gutter I would have folded the turn and not made it to the river fold.

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yep i agree with that, i saw i pointed the question wrong, i was meaning to fold on the turn, i will edit the original post