I runner runner top 2, value push the river?
 

Villian seems ok, my image is nothing to special.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP1 ($3346)
Hero ($2643)
CO ($1935.50)
Button ($4951)
SB ($2297)
BB ($794.50)
UTG ($1101.28)
UTG+1 ($7468.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $40</font>, MP1 calls $40, Hero calls $40, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $20.

Flop: ($170) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $20</font>, UTG+1 calls $20, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $100</font>, Hero calls $100, BB folds, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: ($410) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $450</font>, Hero calls $450.

River: ($1310) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $1000</font>, Hero ...

Re: I runner runner top 2, value push the river?
 

I don't know, you'd think a decent player that coldcalled preflop, raised that flop and then bet every street is going to have a set or 56 a lot of the time. If he had some big draw on the flop he's just going to fold if you push. He may even fold a smaller two pair. I doubt there's value in a push.

Re: I runner runner top 2, value push the river?
 

i dunno his play looks awfully like a set/straight

he does put you on hearts obviously, i think a call is in order, followed by fold, and raise being the worst ....2-pair doesnt get this aggressive

Re: I runner runner top 2, value push the river?
 

I definitely wouldn't raise this hand.

Calling is probably the best option.

ryan

Re: I runner runner top 2, value push the river?
 

im trying to come up w/ a reason to call.

Re: I runner runner top 2, value push the river?
 

A7 is the only reason I can think of to call... and that seems to be a bad one... to me this seems like a fold. Actually it seems like a fold on the turn, but definitely a fold on the river assuming this opponent has not been getting out of line.

Re: I runner runner top 2, value push the river?
 

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A7 is the only reason I can think of to call... and that seems to be a bad one... to me this seems like a fold. Actually it seems like a fold on the turn, but definitely a fold on the river assuming this opponent has not been getting out of line.

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You don't think people bet this turn all the time to get a fold from a medium pair or draw? I can't imagine that folding top pair with the nut redraw getting 2:1 is correct? Can you explain why you fold the turn giving this action?

Re: I runner runner top 2, value push the river?
 

i wouldve folded the turn, yes.

Re: I runner runner top 2, value push the river?
 

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i dunno his play looks awfully like a set/straight

he does put you on hearts obviously, i think a call is in order, followed by fold, and raise being the worst ....2-pair doesnt get this aggressive

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I agree with the 2nd part of this, however, the 1st and 2nd statements here don't match up?

If he has a set or straight AND puts hero on hearts his river bet of $1000 is bad. If he puts hero on the nut heart draw, that's fine he made aces so he can put in a value bet, not $1000. If he has a set or straight and puts hero on something like KQh he would weak lead and give hero room to bluff, also not $1000.

Based on the size of his river bet, this makes me believe a call is correct.

Re: I runner runner top 2, value push the river?
 

If you raise all-in, the only worse hand that calls you is a smaller aces up. I find that an unlikely holding for villain, so I think calling is better.