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CryptoManiac 11-21-2005 04:49 PM

I need a plan - AA 200NL
 
SB has just sat down and this is his second hand so I have no read on him at all.

Whats my plan here?

Seat 1: UTG ($200.75 in chips)
Seat 2: CO ($255.50 in chips)
Seat 4: BTN ($81.75 in chips)
Seat 5: SB ($196 in chips)
Seat 6: BB ($57.88 in chips)
SB: posts small blind $1
BBs: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to UTG [A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
UTG: raises to $7
CO: folds
BTN: calls $7
SB: calls $6
BB: folds
----- FLOP ----- [5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
SB: bets $2
UTG: raises to $22
BTN: folds
SB: raises to $42
UTG: ???

11-21-2005 04:52 PM

Re: I need a plan - AA 200NL
 
This is a tough spot to be in without reads. I suggest atleast getting poker tracker / player view for the poker / tracker / player view numbers if you are going to play without reads.

A few thoughts : He is almost certainly not on a draw, so he either has a king or a set. You should almost never be three betting here, so it's call or fold, and then check raise, check fold or lead the turn big.

This really depends on how this player plays a king. At the $200 stage you don't want to get stacked with one pair while holding a full stack.

emil3000 11-21-2005 05:03 PM

Re: I need a plan - AA 200NL
 
I probably get stacked with AA here, and I do it on the turn or river. Threebetting flop is not good.

With no read I count on the idiot factor.

4_2_it 11-21-2005 05:05 PM

Re: I need a plan - AA 200NL
 
Call the flop and push any non-K turn.

Arbogast 11-21-2005 05:09 PM

Re: I need a plan - AA 200NL
 
This is one of my major problems lately, and I've been thinking alot about it.

It seems that when you raise ep and get callers, they are usually holding pp and trying to hit sets. So...

You bet the flop, and usually take it down right there. But...when you get action, they can definately beat overpairs.

My advice is to try to control the pot, and just call his gay $2 bet.

I think his re-raise screams i can beat TPTK. Act accordingly.

beavens 11-21-2005 05:10 PM

Re: I need a plan - AA 200NL
 
i like 4_2's line.

11-21-2005 05:10 PM

Re: I need a plan - AA 200NL
 
I dont know lol

The way the flop was played was really weird.
How can afford to clown around with that tiny $2 bet like that with just a king? It really looks like he's trying to get you to raise.

This ones got me confused

11-21-2005 05:19 PM

Re: I need a plan - AA 200NL
 
Make a larger raise PF.

Usually minbetting and then reraising screams monster. I am almost certain you are beat, but this is very difficult to get away from. Also, the donk may be doing this with a hand you beat like a naked K...I don't know, I probably lose my stack here.

mustardo 11-21-2005 05:23 PM

Re: I need a plan - AA 200NL
 
Unless I've seen him doing this before with tpt/gk v preflop raiser I'm folding this everytime. Small lead followed by min reraise is virtually always a monster.

CryptoManiac 11-21-2005 05:24 PM

Re: I need a plan - AA 200NL
 
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I probably get stacked with AA here, and I do it on the turn or river. Threebetting flop is not good.

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Can you explain why three betting is bad? Presumably because we are giving worse hands and opportunity to fold?

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With no read I count on the idiot factor.

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I normally go the other way and assume them to be reasonable until I have evidence to suggest otherwise. What's the general thought here?


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