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SnglMaltScotch 11-18-2005 12:00 PM

Top Ten Notes to Take
 
I currently play 2/4 and have been able to get by up until now without taking many notes. I think that it is time to start.

I am trying to put together a list of the top ten notes that everyone keeps on their opponents so that I can create a list, memorize it (or keep it close by), and then simply have to put the number in the list rather than writing everything out. Obviously, I don't need to take notes on anything the PT keeps track of.

I have tried to put together a list, but I would be interested in other opinions.

In no particular order
--Will fold overs after limping and being isolated pre-flop
--Will raise/three-bet flop with 1 pair
--Will call down with top pair or better (Yes this still happens at 2/4)
--Flop donk bets means strength (My default is that a donk bet is a weak made hand)
--Will raise turn/river with less than 2 pair
--Will call flop on a ragged board and then fold turn UI
--Will randomly bluff
--Plays draws fast (My default is plays draws slowly)
--Will reraise with less than AA/KK/QQ/JJ/AK preflop
--"quick calls" = Draw

Anything else. Would anyone care to put them in order from most important.

Thanks,
SMS

joeski19 11-18-2005 01:27 PM

Re: Top Ten Notes to Take
 
Here is a good thread to read on note taking.
Notes

Bob T. 11-18-2005 03:08 PM

Re: Top Ten Notes to Take
 
-Frequent coldcaller.

-Coldcalls preflop, and folds for one bet on the flop.

Both of these tell me that the player is loose, and probably playing hands that are tactically incorrect.

- Rabid blind defender.

If they defend with any two, then I can assume that they probably don't have anything from the blind until they show some strength.

- Bets/raises/plays draws fast on the turn.

If they do this, one of us is going to get full value when I have a medium strength hand.

- Very tight in the blinds.

Then I open raise whenever they are in the blinds.

winky51 11-18-2005 04:22 PM

Re: Top Ten Notes to Take
 
I found it difficult myself taking notes so I came up with a system to assist. Call it shorthand. Some players have found it useful. I find it very useful because in 1 second I can tell what kind of player he is instead of trying to remember that LP-P, LP-A, LA-P, TA-A and the other 20 abbreviations are.
http://www.texasholdempoker-stats.com/thp_ratings.html

krimson 11-18-2005 04:35 PM

Re: Top Ten Notes to Take
 
*plug plug plug*

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11-18-2005 04:36 PM

Re: Top Ten Notes to Take
 
I make a note when a player posts a blind in EP, or posts a dead. I associate both of these with being very loose.

RatFink 11-18-2005 05:08 PM

Re: Top Ten Notes to Take
 
[ QUOTE ]
--Will fold overs after limping and being isolated pre-flop
--Will raise/three-bet flop with 1 pair
--Will call down with top pair or better (Yes this still happens at 2/4)
--Flop donk bets means strength (My default is that a donk bet is a weak made hand)
--Will raise turn/river with less than 2 pair
--Will call flop on a ragged board and then fold turn UI
--Will randomly bluff
--Plays draws fast (My default is plays draws slowly)
--Will reraise with less than AA/KK/QQ/JJ/AK preflop
--"quick calls" = Draw

[/ QUOTE ]

Uh, I do all of these things situationally. Are they bad or just noteworthy?

SnglMaltScotch 11-18-2005 05:21 PM

Re: Top Ten Notes to Take
 
None of these items are good or bad under situations. They are noteworthy especially if I see them happen repeatedly. I take notes on good play as well as bad. I am just looking to create a list of things that I should be taking notes on.

I would say that most players at 2/4 do very little "situationally". So if they play one one one time they are pretty much going to play that way all the time.

jedi 11-18-2005 05:57 PM

Re: Top Ten Notes to Take
 
[ QUOTE ]


--Will fold overs after limping and being isolated pre-flop


[/ QUOTE ]

How do you know what he folds?

matt hooley 11-18-2005 06:13 PM

Re: Top Ten Notes to Take
 
[ QUOTE ]
-Frequent coldcaller.

-Coldcalls preflop, and folds for one bet on the flop.

Both of these tell me that the player is loose, and probably playing hands that are tactically incorrect.

- Rabid blind defender.

If they defend with any two, then I can assume that they probably don't have anything from the blind until they show some strength.

- Bets/raises/plays draws fast on the turn.

If they do this, one of us is going to get full value when I have a medium strength hand.

- Very tight in the blinds.

Then I open raise whenever they are in the blinds.

[/ QUOTE ]

Coldcall is one of my PAHUD stats. and I think "folds for one bet on the flop" is too situational to be useful. perhaps it would be more useful to just make a note about the types of hands they cold call with.

and I'm not sure but I think you could program a blind defence stat into your HUD if you so desired.


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