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11-17-2005 07:30 PM

counter \"evidence\" against \"online poker is rigged\" mentality
 
people seem to not trust online play because they see unbelievable suckouts, but they don't seem to realize that crazy suckouts occur during live play as well.
this isn't exactly a bad beat encouragement post, but i'd like to hear about some extreme longshots winning a hand. what's the craziest thing you've ever seen live?
maybe then people will realize that this sort of thing is just part of poker and they can stop saying online poker is rigged.

AKQJ10 11-17-2005 07:37 PM

Re: counter \"evidence\" against \"online poker is rigged\" mentality
 
In early August at the Taj, there was a royal flush in clubs dealt on the board a couple of tables away from mine. The odds against the royal hitting the board at that particular table on that particular hand in that particular suit were astronomical, so obviously that particular dealer was cold-decking to build up more action and increase the rake.

QED

Photoc 11-17-2005 07:45 PM

Re: counter \"evidence\" against \"online poker is rigged\" mentality
 
You could try posting this in the correct forum.

This is for live poker.

Now where oh where did that put that internet gambling forum?

11-17-2005 08:04 PM

Re: counter \"evidence\" against \"online poker is rigged\" mentality
 
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You could try posting this in the correct forum.

This is for live poker.


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hmm, so B&M cardrooms don't have anything to do with live poker? ok, gotcha.

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Now where oh where did that put that internet gambling forum?

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maybe you misunderstood my post. this is about things you've seen at live poker, NOT internet poker. so before you go into smartaleck mode, think about it.

11-17-2005 08:17 PM

Re: counter \"evidence\" against \"online poker is rigged\" mentality
 
thanks for the sarcasm although i hope it's not directed towards me since i DON'T think online poker is rigged.

but wow, a royal flush?? what are the odds? was the dealer a male or female, how old? that makes the odds even greater!

offTopic 11-17-2005 08:25 PM

Re: counter \"evidence\" against \"online poker is rigged\" mentality
 
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what's the craziest thing you've ever seen live?


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I was playing in a 4-8 game at Mandalay Bay when a guy who had played a suited 5-high UTG flopped a steel wheel with 5 or 6 opponents, and didn't get enough action to collect the high hand jackpot.

What are the odds of that happening? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

ddss6_99 11-17-2005 08:26 PM

Re: counter \"evidence\" against \"online poker is rigged\" mentality
 
Don't Post About...

I believe #2 covers it

runnerunner 11-17-2005 08:31 PM

Re: counter \"evidence\" against \"online poker is rigged\" mentality
 
Day one of the WSOP main event. About 10 hours into the day and at my table the 2 seat raises from the CO. Button Folds, I fold in the SB. BB raises, CO reraises, BB thinks for a long time and calls. Flop comes A73 rainbow. BB checks, CO bets about half the pot. BB raises all in. CO instacalls and shows pocket Aces. BB turns over KJ off. Turn Q River T for the runner runner straight sending the guy with the set of Aces home. Both of the guys had pretty big stacks at this point, too.

Board: Ah 8c 4s

equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 98.3838 % [ 00.98 00.00 ] { AdAc }
Hand 2: 01.6162 % [ 00.02 00.00 ] { KdJh }


You can actually see the guy on a lot of the intro shots on the ESPN coverage. He is wearing a black polo and has short dark hair and they show him getting up screaming after he hits his miracle.

Jeebus 11-17-2005 08:43 PM

Re: counter \"evidence\" against \"online poker is rigged\" mentality
 
while that beats my odds slightly, I had one very similar in a home game. After getting AKo for the 3rd time in 4 hands I end up pushing a guy in on a K high board. He shows a set of 9's, I catch running Aces and about [censored] myself.

rbenuck4 11-17-2005 09:24 PM

Re: counter \"evidence\" against \"online poker is rigged\" mentality
 
5 10 nl at the Resorts casino in Indiana. I have about about 800 to start the hand in the BB, my buddy is in the SB with about 200 to start the hand, the villain in question has both of us covered.

I'm dealt 10 10 in the BB. About six limpers, SB completes, I check.

flop is 10 9 9. Checked around to villain, who bets 40, my buddy calls, i call 2 other callers.

turn is a 5. My buddy goes all in for about 150, I call, folded to villain who makes 400, and I push. He calls.

River is a 5, and he lips over 55.

Online is not rigged. (989 to 1 shot).


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