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igbr1 11-17-2005 03:30 PM

99, should I fold it on the turn?
 
Party Poker 1.00/2.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6.00 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: (4.00 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.00 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 8.00 BB.

milesdyson 11-17-2005 03:32 PM

Re: 99, should I fold it on the turn?
 
no but you should have checked the turn, and you also should have had a read.

LoaferGee12 11-17-2005 03:40 PM

Re: 99, should I fold it on the turn?
 
[ QUOTE ]
no but you should have checked the turn, and you also should have had a read.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think the turn is a pretty standard bet, no? He's calling all the way down with any piece of that board and you don't want to let him draw for free with a 1-card FD.

I can understand checking the turn and calling on the river if up against an aggro player.

MrWookie47 11-17-2005 03:48 PM

Re: 99, should I fold it on the turn?
 
I think this is a good example of checking with outs.

Buckmulligan 11-17-2005 03:57 PM

Re: 99, should I fold it on the turn?
 
I don't really see a problem with betting turn with the intention of checking behind on the river. I also don't find a problem in folding this turn. Apparently I'm wrong though. How bout an explanation.

11-17-2005 04:03 PM

Re: 99, should I fold it on the turn?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I think this is a good example of checking with outs.

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At the same time, isn't our hand is too vulnerable to be giving a free card?

eviljeff 11-17-2005 04:23 PM

Re: 99, should I fold it on the turn?
 
you can't fold the turn after you're c/r. I'm interested in the people that are saying you should have checked through the turn - I don't have a clear opinion either way on this.

LoaferGee12 11-17-2005 04:37 PM

Re: 99, should I fold it on the turn?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I think this is a good example of checking with outs.

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Checking with outs? So we're already giving up on our hand? I guess I just don't see how this isn't a value/protection bet here.

GtrHtr 11-17-2005 04:49 PM

Re: 99, should I fold it on the turn?
 
* grunch

The pot is fairly small on the turn so I would consider checking behind - then calling on the river if he leads out. He's played passively to this point but I'm not thrilled with the turn card as he may be on a draw due to his previous calls.

TomBrooks 11-17-2005 05:06 PM

Re: 99, should I fold it on the turn?
 
I'm going to bet that riva against most opponents (and fold to a raise.)


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