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11-17-2005 01:49 AM

QQ party 100nl 6-max
 
So I've been playing at this table for a bit and have around 120 and I'm dealt a nice looking QQ on the button when the following hand ensued.

The table was fairly loose with a couple big pots that i've seen, nothing to insane though, just a typical loose party 6-max table.

The villain on this hand is pretty bad, but hasn't yet done anything that can be seen as too too crazy. Just some bad calls with marginal hands preflop. He has me covered though and then this happens.

Preflop: Utg raises to 3, Villain calls, Mp1 calls, I make it 12 from the button, 2 folds, Utg folds Villain makes it 45 to go, and MP1 folds.....My move???

amoeba 11-17-2005 01:50 AM

Re: QQ party 100nl 6-max
 
standard I think is to fold.

11-17-2005 01:54 AM

Re: QQ party 100nl 6-max
 
Had it been the original raiser doing this I would agree, but what can be said about the cold call of the relatively small utg preflop raise, and then him only waking up after i made my move?

Seems a little fishy no?? Had it been Utg doing this it would have been an auto muck for me but the way it went down I'm not so sure.

11-17-2005 01:55 AM

Re: QQ party 100nl 6-max
 
Yes fold. Villan is in EP calls raise, then comes over top of a re-raise. Doesn't look like AK~AQ this time.

amoeba 11-17-2005 01:57 AM

Re: QQ party 100nl 6-max
 
well I can't tell but it could be the "I'll smoothcall with my monster to slowplay, oh wait, guy behind me loves his hand, he'll never see this coming"

the machine 11-17-2005 01:57 AM

Re: QQ party 100nl 6-max
 
i like a push probably 99 but he may do this with aa too but i still like to push probably thinks u have 2 big cards. little does he know they are the same rank [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

11-17-2005 02:03 AM

Re: QQ party 100nl 6-max
 
[ QUOTE ]
well I can't tell but it could be the "I'll smoothcall with my monster to slowplay, oh wait, guy behind me loves his hand, he'll never see this coming"

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Thats definately the line of reasoning I most feared in playing this hand.

Can any thought go into the notion that at a loose table, players would be less likely to do this with the two hands I fear, thinking that everyone would just come along anyway if they raised. Or is this giving too much, or not enough credit to the thought process of a standard party 100 6-maxer

11-17-2005 02:25 AM

Results
 
Some quick results before bed

I look at the action,and feel, pretty sure the best he could have here is Ak or something like jj or tens.with Aces or kings being a rarity

Any way i say to myself [censored] it and push and he thinks and calls with AQo and not that it matters but my and holds up.

However, I'm not quite sure if this type of push is profitable in the long term, but I am interested in hearing some thoughts

amoeba 11-17-2005 02:47 AM

Re: QQ party 100nl 6-max
 
I tend to think less of why they would do this with AA/KK and more of why they would do this with any other hand.

I am certain your reraising range is fairly narrow so it doesn't make sense for them to pull this move without a big hand.


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