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PokerRoom 1/2 (9 handed)

Hero is UTG+1 with A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
1 fold , <font color="red">Hero Raises </font> , 3 folds , CO calls, Button calls, SB folds , BB calls

Flop: (8.5 SB)
A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
BB checks, Hero bets , <font color="red">CO raises </font>, Button calls, BB folds , <font color="red"> Hero 3-bets </font> <font color="red">CO caps </font> ,Button calls, Hero calls

Turn: (10 BB) 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero checks, CO bets , Button calls, Hero calls

River: (13 BB) J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero checks, CO bets , Button folds ,Hero calls

Final Pot (15 BB)

After Villian caps the flop, I figure I'm beat, but with the size of the pot I call it down. Does anyone fold this?

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I play it the same, but I don't think we're ahead, and I've realized I'm seeing too many showdowns. Still, top frikken pair, as Ed would say.

Reads play a part in this too, of course.

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After Villian caps the flop, I figure I'm beat, but with the size of the pot I call it down. Does anyone fold this?

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Yikes. That's tough. I don't fold this without a read. The thing that makes it especially tough is the double-paired board. If villain had 2pr or a set on the flop, we're now f****d.

I'm torn. The fact that I've seen this play with AT and A9 as recently as last night skews me to the call down.

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Yeah, I realize that a read would help here. That's a part of my game that I really need to work on. I used GameTime+ when I played almost exclusively on Empire. Since the split I've started bonuswhoring and have a hardtime getting GT to work on other sites. I just downloaded PAHUD so that might help, but more importantly I need to start paying more attention and taking notes on players.

I'm curious if anyone else lays this down and why?

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No reads on CO? I'm definitely calling this down. With nothing to go on, we don't have much of an idea what he might be holding here.

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improving your game is not about finding good places to "make big lay downs". getting 14-1 on the river you'd have to have a very marginal hand to consider folding.
I quote SSH, "You are correct to pay off!!"

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Does anyone fold this?

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God no! I'm leading the turn and calling down a raise.

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Does anyone fold this?

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God no! I'm leading the turn and calling down a raise.

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this is way too aggressive.

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Does anyone fold this?

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God no! I'm leading the turn and calling down a raise.

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Spew.

Two possibilities:
1. Flush draw that he's pumping.
2. 2-pair or better. Most people don't 4-bet a flop with top pair.

My first thought is to bet/fold the turn, but then I realize we are in a weird spot on the river. We are behind way too much to bet the river in this type of situation, but checking feels dirty. With this in mind, I probably show down cheaply

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Looks fine. Can't fold this without a read.