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sourbeaver 11-14-2005 12:20 AM

Top pair vs poor player
 
Villain is 54/0/2.5, not spectacular.
I put him on a steal with his flop minraise as I've been raising a fair amount of time. Turn bet to make it look like I'm weak, given my read. I'm not sure about the line though.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button ($100.35)
SB ($138.35)
BB ($44.25)
UTG ($130.75)
Hero ($126.05)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls $4.

Flop: ($11.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $12</font>, Hero calls $6.

Turn: ($35.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $18</font>, UTG calls $18.

River: ($71.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero bets 60, Villain pushes 90, Hero calls.

Mercman572 11-14-2005 12:33 AM

Re: Top pair vs poor player
 
I probably check behind on river but bet close to full pot on the turn. You put him on a steal, so why raise the river? It's probably real close but I don't know if there is a weaker Q often enough here for a river value bet. I think you basically have shown through all three streets to have the Q

amoeba 11-14-2005 12:37 AM

Re: Top pair vs poor player
 
I don't like the proportion of money going in on each street.
there's way too much left over at the river.

Malachii 11-14-2005 12:42 AM

Re: Top pair vs poor player
 
Against a 54 whatever VPIP player, I can't get my money in fast enough here. Bet like 9 on flop keep betting 2/3rds the rest of the way.

sourbeaver 11-14-2005 09:12 PM

Re: Top pair vs poor player
 
Let's say I bet 9 on flop and he repops to 18, should I be willing to reraise here ? His flop raising range probably includes FD, Q, set, combo-draw. I might then be inclined to raise ?

If I flat call, pot on turn will be ~47 (I have ~100 left).
Against this villain, I'm having a hard time considering this WA/WB.

Let's say I lead for 40, anyone releases to a raise/push ?
If he calls, the pot stands at 127 and I have 60 left, which I'd consider being committed .. but it will feel very weird if a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] falls.

Alternate lines ? I'm having somewhat of a hard time with this one.


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